Ha! Don't sell yourself short. You are definitely not average! The ride is doable - but I am trying to put in the context of the hill we rode up in Marin. I don't think it's much steeper than that hill - but it is quite a bit longer!

I'd say it's probably going to be about 4000 feet of climbing, as is. Of course, we can cut the distance and the climbing in 1/2 by starting and stopping at Orinda BART.

If you want to come, I can change the route. Might be better for everyone, now that I think of it - closer for the TE gals too!