Latest update - local dealer made a few more calls, and this is the deal. There are Ruby frames available in my size (48) and model (Comp/Pro frame) and there is a crash replacement deal - 15% discount, or about $1000 for the frame. the catch? (besides it not being a very great discount) Specialized will only cut you this deal if you surrender your damaged frame.- so the dream of fixing the broken one to rebuild as a TT bike concept is no longer sounding viable. Darn. Calfee is sounding better. This was the second crash on my Ruby - the first last year (same scenario, person in front of me went down fast and I cashed into /onto them) In the first crash, my carbon bars and rear derraileur hanger needed replacement, with just tiny cosmetic damage to the frame. But is it bad to ride a carbon bike that has been crashed twice?( BTW, I replaced my bars with the Dolce aluminum bars with the "Zertz" inserts, and I like them just as much as the carbon ones.) Well, back to the phones to see what I can find out! Tokie



- so the dream of fixing the broken one to rebuild as a TT bike concept is no longer sounding viable. Darn. Calfee is sounding better. This was the second crash on my Ruby - the first last year (same scenario, person in front of me went down fast and I cashed into /onto them) In the first crash, my carbon bars and rear derraileur hanger needed replacement, with just tiny cosmetic damage to the frame. But is it bad to ride a carbon bike that has been crashed twice?( BTW, I replaced my bars with the Dolce aluminum bars with the "Zertz" inserts, and I like them just as much as the carbon ones.) Well, back to the phones to see what I can find out! Tokie
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