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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    CC: if someone made a statement on here that was offensive to Muslims or defamed Mohammed, this group would be on them like bees on honey.
    Likewise, the unnecessary use of God's name is offensive to Christians.
    Oh boy.
    'God' does not belong to Christians and Christianity. Lots of religions refer to God or to their various Gods. If I have my own God in my heart that I believe in and want to say Oh my God, that's my right and if someone else is offended by my mentioning my God then that's their problem- they can't expect the rest of the world to follow their religious rules. They are not the boss of me.
    I happen to believe that even if I didn't believe in any God and wanted to say Oh my God that's my right and it's not 'defaming' anything. My beliefs are my own and they should be respected too. I don't request that others practice them though. If some religion thought of dancing as being the work of the Devil does that mean no one else should ever dance in their own daily lives, so as not to offend or defame them?? Likewise, if some Muslims think it's offensive to Allah that women drive cars am I supposed to not drive so as not to offend them?
    Too many people telling others what they can do and say if you ask me.

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    I just keep thinking of things that people say that annoy me.

    Pasty, pale, white (in a negative tone "you are so white")- I am fair skinned. F-you if I care about not having skin cancer. And yes, that f.

    Vertically Challenged- no challenge here, I am short damnit. Sure I need a stool to get things off the shelf but don't act like being 5'2" is a handicap.

    Zit- ugly word for an annoying issue.

    C*nt- makes my skin crawl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggie_Ama View Post
    I just keep thinking of things that people say that annoy me.

    Pasty, pale, white (in a negative tone "you are so white")- I am fair skinned. F-you if I care about not having skin cancer. And yes, that f.

    Vertically Challenged- no challenge here, I am short damnit. Sure I need a stool to get things off the shelf but don't act like being 5'2" is a handicap.

    Zit- ugly word for an annoying issue.

    C*nt- makes my skin crawl.
    I agree, "vertically challenged" is just dumb! It's one of those things that must have come from "political correctness" gone overboard. As for the "c word", that is just disgusting--worse than the f-bomb which is bad enough! BTW, didn't we have another thread like this a while back?
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    hmmm

    Just another thing..Please remember that religion is not shoved down our throats down here as much as it is in the US.

    Mr Silver, must you quote every single verse in the Bible? You don't have to point it out, the non religious folks are not complete morons thanks. It's not going to change my view about religion.


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    "C word"

    I think it's pretty awful, too, and I can probably count the number of times I've said it on one hand without using my thumb.

    Once was directed towards a woman in an Escalade that nearly hit me with her mirror while I was in the bike lane (and put her passenger-side tires over the line to do so!), then swerved towards me again when I began to pull up next to her at a stoplight. I had to ride into the the gutter to get around her, and I let the c-word fly right into her open window
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    I think it's pretty awful, too, and I can probably count the number of times I've said it on one hand without using my thumb.

    Once was directed towards a woman in an Escalade that nearly hit me with her mirror while I was in the bike lane (and put her passenger-side tires over the line to do so!), then swerved towards me again when I began to pull up next to her at a stoplight. I had to ride into the the gutter to get around her, and I let the c-word fly right into her open window
    When I was teaching reading in tutorials, we would end each session with paired read-aloud (taking turns reading) from a book of the student's choice. This ninth grade girl chose Cujo. When she'd come to a 'bad word,' she would simply skip it, so I did the same.

    When the c-word came up and I skipped it, she called me on it... "You skipped that word!" - and she was concerned that I'd skipped it because she'd never heard of it before. I told her what it meant and that she probably hadn't heard of it because it was considered even more 'inappropriate' and rude than other 'bad words.'

    I did suggest that she not announce at the dinner table that she'd learned a new word...

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    right hand turn. it's a right turn. duh.
    hot water heater. why heat it if it's hot?

    oh, and i am another who agrees with mr. s and flybye about the cavalier use of "god". there are a lot of things in this world that you have the right to do but what about some consideration for those who have very deeply held convictions? just common courtesy in my book.
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    This thread is hilarious "Inverted"???

    I'm guilty of some of them, and I'm afraid I will keep saying OMG in some situations as there's just no other phrase that fills the gap except ones that would offend even more of you. But I will try to refrain from excessive use, how's that?

    Vicarious apostrophes bug me even though I misuse them myself sometimes, I'll blame Norwegian for that as they're used a little differently here. "Lose/loose" is another pet peeve. But I'm trying to be less of a spelling nazi as some of the nicest people I know can't spell.

    Apart from all this - TE is one of the most literate boards I've ever seen (or is that I ever seen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    Oh boy.
    'God' does not belong to Christians and Christianity.
    You're right there. Christians, Jews, and Muslims all trace spiritual lineage back to Abraham...and therefore to the same divine "God of Abraham" whom they hold in equally high stature. Where these faiths differ is in other areas.

    I'm simply saying that people of these faiths will be offended by the inappropriate use of God's name. As with any group, some will be more offended than others. But I will assure you that if someone repeatedly curses God in my presence, that I will ask them to refrain and/or I will leave their presence...and I have had several occassions to do just that.

    Once they become aware of offensive behavior, in my experience, polite people have always been sensitive to it...and maybe all that's coming out of these posts is an awareness, but whether anyone is sensitive to it is their choice...
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    I just thought of 2 more last night.
    Not words so much, but still set my teeth on edge. Thank you, Mrs. Josephs, my high school English teacher.....

    "Would have" in "If" phrases: "If I would have gotten home earlier..."

    and

    What Mrs. J referred to as "Contrary to fact:subjunctive": "If I was President, we'd do things differently."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7rider View Post
    I just thought of 2 more last night.
    Not words so much, but still set my teeth on edge. Thank you, Mrs. Josephs, my high school English teacher.....

    "Would have" in "If" phrases: "If I would have gotten home earlier..."

    and

    What Mrs. J referred to as "Contrary to fact:subjunctive": "If I was President, we'd do things differently."
    er, ahem. "If I WERE President..." is the correct use of the subjunctive.

    and when I say OMG I mean OH MY GOODNESS!!


    My personal belief is that religions in general have attempted to impose their own behavior rules on others who are not of their religion, whether by force or by subtle intimidation or by using the implication that non-believers who are behaving in their own way that is not intended to insult are offending and behaving badly and need to adapt. This has been happening all over the world for centuries.
    Yes, Lisa, isn't that why most wars were waged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimitabby View Post
    er, ahem. "If I WERE President..." is the correct use of the subjunctive.
    I guess you realized that I was giving an example (in both cases) of the incorrect statement??
    I did not provide a corrected version in either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post

    I'm simply saying that people of these faiths will be offended by the inappropriate use of God's name.
    People get offended by all kinds of things. And what one person thinks is inappropriate, another might not at all. Who gets to tell others what to do/say or not do/say when it comes to spiritual beliefs?

    But I will assure you that if someone repeatedly curses God in my presence, that I will ask them to refrain and/or I will leave their presence...and I have had several occassions to do just that.
    Of course that is your right.
    But a thought here- are people actually 'cursing' God, or is that simply your interpretation of what "Oh my God" or "God damn it" means? When I say Oh my God I am not saying anything bad about God. But you may feel I am.

    Once they become aware of offensive behavior, in my experience, polite people have always been sensitive to it...and maybe all that's coming out of these posts is an awareness, but whether anyone is sensitive to it is their choice...
    Your sentence says it all. You might call my behavior offensive and see me as me impolite and insensitive- when I don't see myself as being offensive or impolite at all if I say Oh my God (or oh my goddess or anything else for that matter). It's your interpretation that what I said is offensive.
    The offensive aspect of it is coming from within you, and you feel I should then adjust to your rules.
    I ask you- what if my personal religion states that people should be more accepting and tolerant of how others express themselves and of how others view their own God or lack of their own God? Will you then be more "polite" and "sensitive" towards me when I say Oh my God?
    Do you consider that perhaps I am an atheist who finds your quoting of scripture on this forum to be disrespectful to MY beliefs? (in reality, though I think it is inappropriate, I know you are not trying to offend me by doing so, thus I don't see you as being impolite or offensive for doing so)
    Truly, I do hear and understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with it.
    To me it's not a matter of politeness or offensiveness but more a matter of just allowing people to be themselves spiritually instead of trying to enforce behavior on others that have differing beliefs.

    My personal belief is that religions in general have attempted to impose their own behavior rules on others who are not of their religion, whether by force or by subtle intimidation or by using the implication that non-believers who are behaving in their own way that is not intended to insult are offending and behaving badly and need to adapt. This has been happening all over the world for centuries.

    I have no problem with people of various religions having their own ideas and rules. It's great that there are many varied beliefs (including atheism, Christianity, Judaism, Paganism, Buddhism, etc etc). But people of any particular belief should not request or expect others to follow their behavioral rules as well, and they should not attempt to intimidate others into doing so by implying that not doing so makes them impolite, insensitive, or offensive. This last sentence is my main point. Respect goes both ways. We should not expect others to change their behavior to suit our own religious beliefs.

    Well that's MY belief. I don't expect anyone else to follow it, and I am not being insensitive or impolite by behaving true to my own beliefs.
    I'll do my best not to continue a debate here though, because it's not really what this thread is about.

    Other words that make one cringe?...
    How about "fixin's" when talking about dressings, toppings, and condiments. {{cringe cringe}}.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    Plus, it reminds me of when my dork 50+ year old brother told me I should really be sure to get a prostate checkup the next time i go to the doctor. Ai, how clueless can you get??!
    LOL!

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    Lisa, it's certainly your right to say God in conversation. But what is your right, and what is appropriate or considerate, are not the same.

    I have the right, with constitutional guarantees, to say all of the things that have previously been mentioned as irritating or offensive. However, I try to refrain from some of them as I try to be considerate of the feelings of those I happen to be around at the time.

    Let's not confuse our rights with good manners.

 

 

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