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    I'm wondering how many athletes are going to have their performance questioned because they had to max out their inhalers because of pollution.

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    Is the pollution and air quality really that bad in China? I would think they are exaggerating.
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    It is bad. One former Olympic mtb'er chose not to compete at Beijing because of the air quality. Several pro mtb'ers said they were hacking, coughing and getting nauseated half way through the training rides. Some were hurling.

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    I remember Adam Craig saying that the air during event he went to last Fall (a kind of goodwill pre-Olympic race either on the same course or in the same area) caused a lot of problems for him and other cyclists. Back in December he guessed his plan would be to fly in the day before the event, race and get out. And if the polution was too bad, just pull from the race. No one wanted to risk long term damage.

    He was obviously very worried about the balancing act of health and wanting to race in the Olympics.
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    Maybe I'm the only one, but I thought it was ridiculous that they felt they had to apologize. From what I understand, the masks were provided by some Olympic committe - not the US, not the US cycling team, and not the individual athletes. So, basically they are apologizing for using protective gear that was given to them by an olympic organization that felt the athletes' health/performance could be compromised by existing conditions?!? What - were they supposed to only wear them in private? If there is more to the story, please let me know.

    Sorry, based on what's been reported in the news, I just don't get it
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    I agree with Christy - I don't know why they needed to apologize. I understand trying to keep relations with China, etc., positive, but they've even said how awful the air quality is. If you are an athlete in an event that depends on your respiratory system functioning well, why not wear a mask? I guess it's just more political correctness. Which makes me sad.

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    I certainly agree! I know Bobby would not have done anything politically incorrect; he is too smart. Geez, half the people who live there wear masks to walk around every day.
    Based on how I feel when I ride if there's an air quality alert here, I question the safety of engaging at an Olympic level in any endurance sport under those conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csr1210 View Post
    Maybe I'm the only one, but I thought it was ridiculous that they felt they had to apologize. From what I understand, the masks were provided by some Olympic committe - not the US, not the US cycling team, and not the individual athletes. So, basically they are apologizing for using protective gear that was given to them by an olympic organization that felt the athletes' health/performance could be compromised by existing conditions?!? What - were they supposed to only wear them in private? If there is more to the story, please let me know.

    Sorry, based on what's been reported in the news, I just don't get it
    Christy
    Exactly, I don't get it either. The reality of hosting elite athletes in a smog-filled environment clashes with the "face saving" agenda. I feel for them, it's a real dilemma.

    Supposedly the goverment was going to shut down factories and keep car traffic out of the area as a last ditch effort to reduce polution. We'll see. I'm completely fascinated by the political drama of it, but these athletes are getting dropped into a very strange environment.

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    You're not the only one. The USOC officials through the cyclists under the bus, so to speak. The officials are just too worried about offending China.

    In a great synergy of politics and athletics, Lopez Lomong, one of Sudan's 'lost boys' and member of Team Darfur (and US citizen since 2007), was chosen by his peers to carry the US flag into the opening ceremonies.

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    What a great move. He deserves the honor as an athlete and teammate. But I've read articles that paint the US team as politically unaware, as if they don't read about current events or care. I met paralympic sprinter, and world record holder April Holmes and asked her about the political ramifications of this game and she said they are so focussed on training that it's not as if they don't read or care, the athletes just have to focus on their training. Heh, heh, I suppose that's the party line or what they say

    Here in a subtle move that speaks volumes to the tragic situation in Darfur which we all, not just any one country should care about the US team chose this athlete.

    I'm so very proud of them.

    Quiet, dignified, yet what a huge statement to the world when they enter the stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachael24 View Post
    Is the pollution and air quality really that bad in China? I would think they are exaggerating.
    I don't want to politicize the thread so let's try real hard to keep this to cycling but yes, it's that bad. Bad enough that it effects us here. This is from 2007. We all breath the same air

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    yes, Trek, you're right, it all blows around, but when there's an inversion, bad air gets trapped in an area, particularly when the emissions of that area are out of control.

    from today's news:

    Air pollution shrouds Beijing on eve of Olympics

    By TINI TRAN – 3 hours ago

    BEIJING (AP) — The wall of gray haze around the National Stadium and across the city cut visibility down to a mile. On the eve of opening ceremonies, Beijing's polluted air took center stage Thursday as the most visibly pressing problem for Olympic organizers who had promised to clean up the Chinese capital.
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    I travel to Beijing on a regular basis for business and the pollution is usually pretty bad, most days you can't even tell there are mountains right outside the city.

    We commented at work as well how the athletes were going to perform with the air quality, the first time I went there I ran outside but didn't feel good afterwards since then I have stayed on the treadmill in the gym as I didn't want to breathe the air.

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    Thor Hushovd dropped the Olympics altogether. He hasn't said so explicitly, but I imagine the pollution was a factor. He was battling a chest cold towards the end of the TdF, and though he won a race in Norway just two days before the Olympic team left for Beijing, and had said beforehand that he considered that race a test of whether he was recovered enough to go, he nevertheless decided not to go "because he has to give priority to his health".
    Half-marathon over. Sabbatical year over. It's back to "sacking shirt and oat cakes" as they say here.

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    Fred Dreier of VeloNews gives his take of the pollution in Beijing, including photos: "After a few days in Beijing, VeloNews' Fred Dreier says masks seem like a really good idea".

    Like Trek, I don't want to politicize the thread, so I'm keepin' my opinions to myself and letting those photos do the talking.
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