I love all these bikes: the Surly, the Casseroll, the old Treks, the Kona....

and are you agreeing that any of them can work as a more "upright" ride?
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You know what I realized...I think one of the reasons I like those Surlys is that they come in great colors and they don't SCREAM!
I'M A CERVELO, I'M A TREK, HEY, OVER HERE, CANNONDALE ! JAMIS JAMIS...

and the Surlys:

'cuse me folks, LHT comin through.....