More Mountain Pedal questions

[Red Rock]

Thankyou for all of your inputs. I did not realize that one could adjust the float on the SPDs. That is very good information to know.

Now that it has been mentioned on the platform issue, I can understand not having one. It would not be fun to be riding along and some twig became stuck in the cleat and ends up putting you on the ground.

Is there really any difference on the models and cost? Such as an SPD for $50.00 vs $70.00. Is the more expensive one lighter like everything else in cycling? Is it better to have a lighter pedal which leads to a lighter bike, I guess.

Shoes-Irulan, what shoes did you actually end up going with? I have debated this issue a bit myself, that is the hike n' bike situation. We have a lot of slick rock around here and I could see falling on that would not be fun!!

Thankyou,
Red Rock

[Grog]

Thankyou for all of your inputs. I did not realize that one could adjust the float on the SPDs. That is very good information to know.

Actually, no: you can adjust the tension, NOT the float. There is a some float on the SPD mountain pedal, and you can't change it. The tension is translated in how hard it is to unclip.

Is there really any difference on the models and cost? Such as an SPD for $50.00 vs $70.00. Is the more expensive one lighter like everything else in cycling? Is it better to have a lighter pedal which leads to a lighter bike, I guess.

If you have a chance to see them in person, you can try spinning them on their axle (better pedal spins more easily), that would make a difference. Some pedals are also known to shed mud more easily than others, you can read about that on the MTBRreview web site... Weight I guess would also be part of the price difference.

Good luck!

[Irulan]

t would not be fun to be riding along and some twig became stuck in the cleat and ends up putting you on the ground.

do such things happen?Never seen it in all my years on a mountain bike. I've gotten sticks in my derailler, but never my cleats.

Is there really any difference on the models and cost? Such as an SPD for $50.00 vs $70.00. Is the more expensive one lighter like everything else in cycling? Is it better to have a lighter pedal which leads to a lighter bike, I guess.

Shoes-Irulan, what shoes did you actually end up going with? I have debated this issue a bit myself, that is the hike n' bike situation. We have a lot of slick rock around here and I could see falling on that would not be fun!!

Thankyou,
Red Rock

Sure you can pay a lot for a lighter, more cool pedal. I'm lusting after some dangerboy blue anodized myself, but they only come as flats. But some generic nashbar cheapies do the same thing.

Shoes, I went with a specialized Taho. I forgot to mention that if you have a stickier sole, you can stand on your flat pedals easier that with hard sole shoes.

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[bike4ever]

I also haven't gotten anything other than mud stuck in my cleat. I think Red Rock was referring to getting something stuck in the platform pedal.

I have customers regularly complain about smacking their platform on a rock or root while riding. With how some of their pedals look, I know that has definitely happened.

[Irulan]

I have customers regularly complain about smacking their platform on a rock or root while riding. With how some of their pedals look, I know that has definitely happened.

yes, duh on my part. I don't ever really think about it unless I'm threading through some rocks and pedal up/down makes a difference - but ya, mountain bike pedals do get smacked. It's just one of those things.

[SalsaMTB]

My .02....

Road vs. Mountain Pedals:
Road pedals have a large clip in surface whereas mountain have a small. To me, the reasons are as follows. First, when road riding, you don't move nearly as much as you do mountain biking, so you have more of a tendancy to create a hotspot, so you you need a larger surface to distribute the force. Mountainbiking, you're moving around a lot so a hot spot just isn't as much as a problem. Also, for mountain biking, shedding mud is a HUGE priority. Road pedals would be awful at that, so mountain pedals have small cleat surface, more open design to allow mud to shed.

For mountain pedals,
spd vs. crankbros
Me, I'm a crank brothers girl. I don't think any pedal sheds mud as well as an eggbeater. I've ridden both and just like the feel of the clip in, clip out motion of the eggbeaters. This really comes down to personal preference. The only reason I would recommend the crank brothers to anyone over the spds is if you ride in muddy areas. Other than that, either will do, but I had a VERY bad experience with the entry level spds, so I would recommend going one step up (read the reviews on mtbr.com, they were impossible to clip out, no matter how much the tension was adjusted. This was a few years ago though, so the problem may be resolved). The spds do offer adjustable tension, but I find the tension of the eggbeaters to be perfect

Platform vs no-platform
Platform is great if you plan on riding without your clipless shoes. Personally, I never do, so I don't bother with the platform. DH uses his mountain bike for trail riding and commuting. His commute is short so he doesn't bother using his mtb shoes and likes having a platform (he has the mallets). I've tried the mallet and I find the clip in/out efforts a little bit higher. If you don't plan on riding without the clipless shoes, I honestly dont think a platform is needed.

Entry level vs. High End
Typically, when you go from the very entry level to the next step up, you get better bearings and it's definitely worth it. You can easily feel the difference when rotating the pedal. From there up, you are normally paying for weight. I know for Eggbeaters, the entry level pedals are not servicealbe, so I would start with the C, not the MXR. I'm not sure on the spds.

Shoes are all personal preference. If you like Sidi, get Sidi. They make great shoes!

Hope that helps a little!

Jenn

[Red Rock]

Checking in again...

SalsaMTB-thankyou for your explanations. I can better understand my "dumb" question of platform vs. hardly any.

I think Red Rock was referring to getting something stuck in the platform pedal.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I wrote this statement.

I checked out some of the Specialized Tahos, and they look "cool". I can understand with the "grippy soles" being nice. The sole is also firm too which is needed for cycling.

Has anyone used the Sidi mountain shoes? I know they have the tread on the bottom. How has that worked for the gripping situations? The specialized are not as expensive as the Sidis but as Zen has said many times, you get what you pay for. This is true with anything these days though.

Thankyou for your continued thoughts. You are all educating me on this.

Red Rock

[Irulan]

a few more thoughts on platforms, more properly called flats. Some people just prefer them over any kind of clip in, for comfort and security ( is, NOT being clipped in) Many mountain bikers that go this route often wear a shin guard as a flat will pretty typically take chunks out of your shins. What I see as the main difference is that you don't have the pedaling efficiency of being clipped in, but at the same time that gives you freedom of the feet.

As for shoes, find the style you like and then go for fit, that's important. SIDIS have tread shaped configurations on the bottom but it's not a terribly sticky plastic.