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    Here's some info I found doing a quick search:

    How Much Can You Feed Your Sweet Tooth?
    Sugars found naturally in fruits and milk are not a problem. It's the added sugars that need to be limited because they provide calories but few vitamins and minerals. You'll find sugar-laden food at the top of the Food Pyramid. Added sugars can be found in soft drinks, candy, jams, jellies, syrups and table sugar we add to coffee and cereal. Added sugar can also appear in sweetened yogurt, soups, spaghetti sauces, applesauce and other items where you wouldn'tsuspect it unless you check the list of ingredients.

    Here are some guidelines for added sugar based on calories in the daily food choices:

    1,600 calories - Limit sugar to 6 teaspoons per day or 22 grams per day
    2,200 calories - Limit sugar to 12 teaspoons per day or 44 grams per day
    2,800 calories - Limit sugar to 18 teaspoons per day or 66 grams per day

    So if the food label on your sweetened yogurt says a one-cup serving contains 22 grams of sugar, and your meal plan has 1,600 calories a day, you've eaten your day's allotment of sugar.

    http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/nutr...od-pyramid.asp

    Incidentally, my doc (who is an MD, with one of her specialties being nutrition) has told me to limit my fructose intake as well as the refined sugars. This is super-hard for me 'cause I LOVE fruit! I'll post in a separate post some excerpts from an article she wrote on the topic.
    Last edited by michelem; 07-23-2008 at 02:57 PM.

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    Yeah, I'm beginning to think I need to go back to my steel cut oats for breakfast. But guess what I like to put on them... brown sugar and maple syrup. At least I'm in control of how much goes on.

    I knew about the spaghetti sauce. You can find some w/o sugar - typically higher end, more expensive brands. I wonder how much sugar is in my pasta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    Yeah, I'm beginning to think I need to go back to my steel cut oats for breakfast. But guess what I like to put on them... brown sugar and maple syrup. At least I'm in control of how much goes on.

    I knew about the spaghetti sauce. You can find some w/o sugar - typically higher end, more expensive brands. I wonder how much sugar is in my pasta.

    V.
    If you like sweet on your oats - try whatever berries are in season/ cut up peaches/ bananas. That way you get sugar in a natural way, flavor in a yummy way, and some nutrients (antioxidants as well) YUM

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    I agree with spokewrench. Also try cooking oatmeal with fresh cut-up apple and a bit of cinnamon.


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    I put raisins in my oatmeal and they sweeten it up just fine.

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    I also like barley or quinoa cooked with apples and a little cinnamen when I get tired of oatmeal. For the quinoa I cook the apples for a bit first before putting the grain in because it cooks so fast.

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    Interesting thread. Very interesting about fructose, though it does sound a little bizarre. You'd think the one thing we definitely had evolved to eat safely would be fruit. And if fructose does have those negative effects, eating too much fruit should do it too, not just the syrup? But maybe nobody is going to overdose on bananas or grapes anyway

    Flavoured yoghurt over here has so much sugar that some kindergartens don't want kids bringing it in as food. You can buy so-called "healthy snacks" that are sweet flavoured yoghurt with sweet cereal to put in it... makes my blood sugar go through the roof.
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    This was written by my MD:

    For years nutrition scientists said that a calorie is a calorie, and consuming too many or burning too few causes obesity. Bits of evidence refuting that axiom are trickling into nutrition science. For a long time research has focused on fat vs. carbohydrate, but hints that fructose (a sugar) contributes more than glucose (the ‘bad’ sugar in diabetes) to insulin resistance, fat and diabetes surfaced years ago. Scientists uncovered unsuspected effects of fructose on a variety of metabolic processes, which remained obscure pieces of information with unknown cause and effect until recently.

    Now we know much more. We know that fructose increases enzymes (the worker-bee proteins of the body) that make fat. We know that fructose turns off at least three of the body’s mechanisms to keep blood vessels open and flexible. We know that it affects hormones that reduce insulin’s effectiveness. We know that eating excess fructose leads to high uric acid levels, which contribute to high blood pressure.

    For those of you who think I’ve lost my marbles and am making this up, I may have lost my marbles, but I’m not making this up – A lot of this data is very recent and not widely disseminated yet. All of these metabolic consequences of fructose feed into the Metabolic Syndrome, the constellation of abnormalities that eventually leads to diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, abnormal cholesterol levels and heart disease.

    Fructose, a very common sugar molecule, constitutes half of sucrose in beet- or cane-derived table sugar. The other half is glucose. In addition to beet and cane, fructose occurs naturally in honey, fruit, maple syrup and corn. Fructose tastes sweeter than sucrose or glucose.

    In 1957 Richard O. Marshall and Earl R. Kooi developed a process whereby an enzyme (glucose isomerase) turns corn sugar’s glucose into fructose. The resulting ‘high fructose corn syrup’ (HFCS), with up to 90% fructose, tastes sweeter than table sugar. In 1971 Japanese researchers figured out how to mass produce HFCS, which made it very sweet and very cheap. Since the USDA subsidizes corn agriculture with price supports that foster over-production, we have sustained corn excess and a very cheap route for sugar to your stomach.

    HFCS entered the food chain in the mid-1970’s. With sweeter sugar, food manufacturers don’t need to use as much, making sugary food even cheaper to make. By the 1980’s HFCS-sweetened sodas and juices had flooded the market. Food manufacturers switched to HFCS to sweeten any processed food. Big Gulps replaced 12 ounce Dixie cups. Even yogurt and tomato ketchup, two foods that I somehow thought would be ‘pure,’ contain HFCS.

    The timing couldn’t have been worse. Public health nutritionists, promoting very low fat diets to lower cholesterol, could not predict the effect of HFCS because it hadn’t existed before. Sugars are part of the carbohydrate family, so high carb, sweet foods proliferated in the fat phobic 1980’s, when everyone thought that carbs were ‘good’. Contrary to the low fat promise, though, people’s waistlines expanded rather than contracted.

    It is no coincidence that the obesity epidemic and soaring rates of childhood diabetes and adult metabolic syndrome took off in the 1980’s. The National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, an ongoing project of the Centers for Disease Control, documents the dramatic ballooning of Americans’ weight. The 1960-1962, 1971-1974 and 1976-1980 surveys produced consistent levels of obesity and healthy weights. In each of those surveys, about 12% of men and 17% of women were obese and about 46% of men and 53% of women were in the ‘desirable’ weight range.

    That all changed with the 1988-1994 survey, in which obesity jumped to 21% in men and 26% in women, and kept on climbing to 27.5% in men and 25% in women in 1999-2000. The rates of overweight but not quite obese are even higher. Obesity is defined as having a Body Mass Index (BMI) greater than 30. BMI expresses weight in proportion to height. Desirable is 18-25.

    What does this have to do with you? Everything, if you are diabetic, overweight, or hypertensive, or if you have friends or relatives with those problems. You might care that the childhood diabetes epidemic will affect Americans’ productivity and longevity for years to come. If nothing else, the growing public health consequences impact your insurance rates.

    Your choice of soda vs. tea or milk just graduated from “empty vs. healthy calories” to “damaging vs. OK”. Perhaps the most insidious aspect of fructose is that it drives its own consumption. Excess glucose tells the body “enough already!” and the enzyme that degrades it stops working, at least for a while. That doesn’t happen with fructose. Its enzymes turn on and the body churns any huge amount you give it into energy or fat. Unless those calories are burned during physical activity, most will end up around your middle before they cause disease that kills you.

    A calorie is not a calorie, metabolically. Just like the total fat number doesn’t tell you how much ‘bad’ saturated and ‘good’ mono-unsaturated fat there is, carbohydrate and sugar totals doesn’t tell you the source of sugar. Your food label-reading chore now must extend to the ingredients section. You get to make a choice between cost and health.
    Last edited by michelem; 07-23-2008 at 03:18 PM.

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    Thanks for posting that article, Michelle.

    I don't think we should throw fruit out. It's the HFCS that's we should avoid. I've been doing so for a few years now. Virtually eliminates all processed food from diet, which is a very good thing.

    But fruit, containing fructose, is still good for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckervill View Post
    But fruit, containing fructose, is still good for you.

    Karen
    I agree... but I don't eat fruit without other carbs. It just makes me STARVING, hungrier than I was before I ate the fruit.
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    Can you go to a dietician that specializes in sports nutrition? I agree that looking at the sugar in your diet is a good idea, but getting a good medical history and where you are at now in your exercise/nutritional/body composition is what they will assess and tell you what to look at. Trainers cannot do this unless they have the added training as a dietician (or nutritionist but I am all for the dietician). Be careful with that, I've seen people cut alot of sugar from their diet including the natural kind. And everyone is different so you should get it squared away for you! As an example tho of what I was told, not to eat packaged foods with more than 5-7 sugars listed. Good luck with that one! That is what convinced me why bother with stuff in a box.

    But in respect to sugar, for me, I don't eat HFCS, which I swear made a difference for me in the big craving of sugar vicious circle. I don't use artificial sweetners, even Splenda. However, I got this stupid stomach thing and I started eating processed food. Guess what? I feel WORSE! I'm not sure now if it's the stomach bug, some other illness or my diet So for me, there is something to avoiding processed food with lotsa sugar. I still use sugar (raw demera or turbinado) in coffee or tea, but not like I used to. And if I go to Starbucks, I don't get the syrups anymore. I found they really set me off.

    But I know people that are runners (how bout them runners) and triathletes that live on sugar. If I ate as much sugar as they did I would feel horrible. But if they ate as little as I did, I think they would probably not feel so good either.

    SO now I need to go through sugar detox (aka fake food cold turkey). I still eat fruit and milk of course has it's own sugar (that is why you will always have sugar in yogurt because of the lactose-even if you make your own).

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    You probably are taking this into account, but if not...there is a difference between "sugar" like in the ingredients list, and "sugars" on the NI lable. Even my plain, ff yogurt has 10 g. of "sugars" that are naturally occuring. Orange juice has 22 g per serving etc, even with no sugar added. I think you are mostly concerned about added sugar, the kind you find in the ingredients list.

 

 

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