Pondering A New Bike

[SouthernBelle]

I think if you are planning any kind of competition, the weight is significant factor.

Since Trek makes (made) both bikes what are the significant differences in the geometry? I would think that the Madone has a more extreme race position, but I could be wrong about that. But if that is the case, is that a position you want for long distances?

Gotta go take a shower. I'm disgusting right now.

[dex]

If you like the LeMond geometry, it might be worth looking at the carbon frames in their line--Versailles, Buenos Aires, Zurich, Victoire, and Tete de Course.

If I could get my hands on an '04-'06 Victoire (ti and carbon) in my size, I'd be all over it.

[bboston88]

I went from a WSD Lemond Reno to a Specialized Ruby. I love it. I love my Reno too, it fit so well. what I really like about the Ruby is that I don't feel sore in my neck the next day from road chatter. The all carbon is nice. I like that I can race it for now but it's also comfy for the long haul

I have 105 components but it's a 2007 and I really think the 105s are very good, comparable to an older ultegra. i will upgrade some in time. I needed the WSD and the handlebars on the Ruby are great. I can reach the breaks fully in the drops, which I couldn't do on the Reno. I considered getting the men's version (roubaix) but glad I went w/the Ruby.

[Aggie_Ama]

All the bike shops are saying they have seen the '09 prices and it is a big jump. I think Running Mommy even said that.

The geometry might make a difference, the Madone is more aggressive but I see plenty of people happily knocking out centuries on them. DH rides a super racey bike for 100+ miles and is good but then again he is a glutton for self inflicted pain.

Ultegra vs. Dura Ace. Both are going to be smooth, I think I read that actually the Ultegra SL is as good as DA. Maybe in Bicycling magazine? DH is rushing me to leave but I am pretty sure that was the article.

[Mr. Bloom]

Silver and I have been discussing aggressive geometry.

My benchmark was last week at RAIN.

Over the course of 160 miles, without realizing it, my handlebars dropped nearly 1 inch...and I rode a good portion comfortably in the drops.

So, I'm thinking I can take it...???