I Hated the PI attack shorts - the padding was just about the bulkiest thing I"d ever worn and I seemed to be allergic to something they use in the padding. I also tried a Terry Sportco saddle and couldn't get it OFF the bike fast enough. Sounds like you're going thru the great experimentation phase right now *shakes head* it could be the shorts, the saddle, both, neither - just make sure you can return whatever you decide to try! and good luck!