Ok, I think that's what I needed to know. I've seen people with the short curved aerobars that are one kind of bulbous "V" shape without the arm pads, and thought that they were a unique product that I couldn't find online. I got to the bike stores too late today when I found that my girlfriend's old short bars wouldn't fit my new fatter 2008 style handlebars. I'll look into it tomorrow! Tokie