camelbacks ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don't like and won't drink warm water (and imagine how warm the water can get when your temps are above 100.. even with polar bottles!) i fill my camelback with ice... then add water.. and it's still cool 4 hours into the ride! (i take bottles too.. and drink them first since their ice melts faster!)

sounds like we may have a humid (humid for the desert) day today.. at least that's what the radio guy said this a.m.: hot and humid