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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial View Post
    Well, I'm battling allergies and increased miles on the bike, so I guess my body needs the extra rest for now.
    I have to admit that your sleep pattern caught my eye, too. Do you wake up feeling rested after 11 hours? Over the years, has 10 to 11 hours been typical for you? Most researchers say that seven to eight hours should be sufficient. Much less or much more than that can be unhealthy or a sign of another health problem. The fact that your body is "asking" for much more than that makes me wonder whether you're getting enough quality or restful sleep. Do you wake up repeatedly during the night? Do you have trouble falling asleep? Do you wake up naturally or with an alarm clock?

    Also, are you eating breakfast? A turkey sandwich for lunch isn't a whole lot of food during the day for an active person. Are there any other changes in your life that might be affecting motivation, sleep, drug side effects, etc?
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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  2. #2
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    You wrote:

    nutrition--I eat a sandwich (turkey on whole wheat bread) and cycle 2 1/2 hrs later. Get home and drink a Boost (similar to chocolate milk but dairy free). Then eat a carb/protein rich meal afterwards, usually for supper.


    Turkey on whole wheat bread, probably about 240 calories.
    Boost drink 240 calories

    A full meal....maybe you are getting as much as 500 calories (but I doubt it from the way you are eating the rest of the day)

    That is a total of 980 calories. An average woman needs about 1200 calories a day to have the energy to lay on the couche and whine.

    If that is really all you are eating, then there is a good chance you are starving your body, no wonder you have no energy. Too few calories and you burn off all your nice strong muscle, slow down your metabolism, and risk anemia, bone loss and other scary things.

    I feel my healthiest, and most able to tackle any activity, when I have six small meals a day, appox 250 calories each, made up of healthy protein, carb and fat....yes fat. I follow the Body for Life eating plan that breaks it up 40% carbs, 40% protein, 20% fat. One day a week I eat anything (and everything) I want.

    Barbara

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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    Do you wake up feeling rested after 11 hours? Over the years, has 10 to 11 hours been typical for you? Do you wake up repeatedly during the night? Do you have trouble falling asleep? Do you wake up naturally or with an alarm clock?

    Also, are you eating breakfast? A turkey sandwich for lunch isn't a whole lot of food during the day for an active person. Are there any other changes in your life that might be affecting motivation, sleep, drug side effects, etc?
    You asked some very provoking questions so I'll share my thoughts on this. I didn't give you a complete picture in the OP, so here it is.

    I do eat breakfast--sometimes it's an egg with toast, sometimes it's peanut butter on an English muffin and Peet's coffee. Then I eat a mid-morning snack. Then lunch and dinner as well. My caloric intake is about 2200 or so per day. I do sleep through most of the night but lately I've had more intense hot flashes during the night so I do wake up briefly to kick off the covers. The humidity is also higher so it's not as comfortable at bedtime. I do wake up naturally, say around 6:30 or 7 to let the dogs out. Then I'm up making coffee. If I had a pretty strenuous workout the night before, I may sleep in until 8 or so. After a big ride I do take a nap.


    I do battle arthritis and I have some arthritic changes in my bad knee. At times, my joints felt like sandpaper. For anyone that has arthritis, the joint pain and stiffness can wear you down and make you fatigued. I am also a painter and so I stand on my feet most of the day. And after a ride, I am stiff sometimes in my hip and knee on the affected side. I have seen orthos and they all shake their head when they see my x-rays and surgical notes. The only remaining solution for me is a total knee replacement. But I'm planning on keeping my original equipment for as long as I can.

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundial View Post
    You asked some very provoking questions so I'll share my thoughts on this. I didn't give you a complete picture in the OP, so here it is.

    I do eat breakfast--sometimes it's an egg with toast, sometimes it's peanut butter on an English muffin and Peet's coffee. Then I eat a mid-morning snack. Then lunch and dinner as well. My caloric intake is about 2200 or so per day. I do sleep through most of the night but lately I've had more intense hot flashes during the night so I do wake up briefly to kick off the covers. The humidity is also higher so it's not as comfortable at bedtime. I do wake up naturally, say around 6:30 or 7 to let the dogs out. Then I'm up making coffee. If I had a pretty strenuous workout the night before, I may sleep in until 8 or so. After a big ride I do take a nap.


    I do battle arthritis and I have some arthritic changes in my bad knee. At times, my joints felt like sandpaper. For anyone that has arthritis, the joint pain and stiffness can wear you down and make you fatigued. I am also a painter and so I stand on my feet most of the day. And after a ride, I am stiff sometimes in my hip and knee on the affected side. I have seen orthos and they all shake their head when they see my x-rays and surgical notes. The only remaining solution for me is a total knee replacement. But I'm planning on keeping my original equipment for as long as I can.
    Sundial, it sounds like you've got a variety of things of things going, all of which could be affecting your energy level, motivation, and your body's ability to repair and recover. I'd suggest that you to talk to your doctor about it, but I don't always trust that they look at medical issues (and their resulting emotional issues) holistically. Otherwise, I might suggest talking to a PT. Massage is a good suggestion, too.

    Over the past two years, my sleep patterns have gotten completely wonky, so I know how much that issue alone can affect things.

    I hope you feel more like yourself again real soon. Here's a big hug in the meantime!
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

    --Mary Anne Radmacher

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    What she said. And extra hugs, too. Pain is exhausting all by itself, sometimes even when you don't realize how much pain you're in.

    One thing to tuck in your memory bank for the far future: Don't put off the knee replacement TOO long. My mom had bilateral TKA last fall. One thing the therapists said over and over again was how well she was doing because she had preserved decent muscle strength. They kept saying that most people wait too long for their joint replacements, to the point where it's simply too painful for them to move at all; and they wind up with a lot of muscle atrophy, a very hard time in rehab, and probably never return to full function.

    Obviously you're nowhere close to that yet. But something to remember next time you're seriously considering the surgery.

    In the meantime, take good care.
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

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    Having just read your other post and knowing that you're suffering from both chronic pain and (given the hotflashes) presumably menopause or perimenopause, have you considered that you might be depressed? I hate to throw that out there because I know that word is rather loaded for some people, but it might explain a few things. If you feel persistently down, lethargic, weepy, irritable, not like yourself, etc., please consider talking to your doctor or another mental health provider. Hormones alone are enough to upset our normal balance. Add pain to the equation and it's more than understandable.

    More hugs, Sundial. Be good to yourself.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

    --Mary Anne Radmacher

  7. #7
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    Aww, thank you Indysteel and Oakleaf. I already feel better. It's nice to know that there are people who really care and are concerned. But then, would we expect any less from TE'ers?

  8. #8
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    Melatonin to sleep is great. Its a hormone your body naturally produces so its non habit forming. Also, about an hour before a bike ride try a fiber one bar, they are amazingly good and keep you full and fueled for your bike ride!

 

 

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