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  1. #16
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    "The jacket doesn't really 'breathe', I'd say."

    I am beginning to wonder if any athletic jacket really breathes. Jackets get bad going uphill on the bike and, much worse, when running. I've had that problem with all jackets, the PI Whisper Jacket, two Mountain Hardwear jackets (the ultralight Ghost and the rainworthy Epic), and an Outdoor Research jacket that was also marketed as "highly breathable." Not! Now I have a posse of jackets I hardly use (the Mountain Hardwear ones are high quality keepers for hiking/backpacking though).

    For cycling I've jettisoned all jackets and I've been cycling with a vest, even in the dead of winter (well dead of winter here in northern California means rarely colder than 40 degrees). A couple of layers of longsleeve merino wool keeps my arms plenty warm even if there is rain. I have to admit my Optik vest breathes really, really well and if it weren't for the very irritating and uncomfortable fit, I'd just stick with it.

    So, looks like I'll try that Nightlife vest. I thought I saw it in a store here on sale, I'll drop by there this weekend...

  2. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariposa View Post
    I am beginning to wonder if any athletic jacket really breathes. Jackets get bad going uphill on the bike and, much worse, when running. I've had that problem with all jackets....
    For cycling I've jettisoned all jackets and I've been cycling with a vest, even in the dead of winter (well dead of winter here in northern California means rarely colder than 40 degrees). A couple of layers of longsleeve merino wool keeps my arms plenty warm even if there is rain. I have to admit my Optik vest breathes really, really well and if it weren't for the very irritating and uncomfortable fit, I'd just stick with it.
    I agree 100%. Want a jacket that breathes? Get a vest. OR, just use a merino layer or too as a 'jacket'. If you need rainproof, it's not likely to breathe very well. Merino however, not only breathes but keeps you warm and comfy even if it gets wet and/or cold.
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  3. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariposa View Post
    Do the bright yellow Voler provide a lot of reflective taping for at night?

    Amphipod, that looks a little constricting to me...
    Voler jerseys - admittedly not as much reflective material as I'd like. There's a 1 cm reflective strip around each sleeve, and just above the whole length of the bottom hem in the back.

    Amphipod - since it's fully adjustable and a little stretchy, you can set it up as tight or as loose as you like. It doesn't have to be tight for it to not flap in the wind. It does trap a little sweat, particularly under the waistband in back, but since it's pretty minimal to begin with I don't find that to be an issue. I wear it for both running and cycling and I barely know it's there.

    ETA, adjustment range of the Xinglet: I'm 5'3" and 123#, with a fairly short and thick waist (it's those highly developed obliques y'know ). I could make the Xinglet about 4" tighter or 16" looser in the waist, and about 6" shorter or 7" longer in the shoulder straps. And the non-reflective areas of the straps are hi-viz yellow, although obviously there's not a lot of surface area there.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 05-28-2008 at 11:23 AM.
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  4. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    It took me a while to realize that there's a big difference between 'reflective' and 'hi-vis'. Reflective materials work at night by bouncing off of headlights, but the stuff is generally pretty dull looking during the daytime. Hi-vis (screaming yellow or green) material is not necessarily reflective in headlights but is HIGHLY visible during the day in any light.
    I never ride in the dark, so I don't buy stuff because it has reflective strips on it. I buy stuff that's made of screaming yellow fluorescent colored material- like the Nightlife gear. It's shockingly bright during the daytime, when I ride. Nightlife items do have small reflective logos or strips here and there, but they basically work on the bright screaming yellow factor.
    Good one. That's what I want, shockingly bright. I was driving in my neighborhood the other day and could not see a cyclist coming towards me. He had a dark blue jersey on. This is the color I like to wear. Yikes! It was late afternoon, hours before sunset. He blended in with the background. I wasn't close to hitting him or anything, but geeze... taught me a lesson.

    So my next purchases will be loud and obnoxious, bright yellow... red... lime green.... or all three.

 

 

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