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  1. #1
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    How does the jacket compare to the PI Hi-vis jacket?

    I have been looking for more of a winter fleece or windresistant Hi-vis jacket for the winter. Any ideas?

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    Alternatively, if you don't mind the dorky crossing-guard look, the Xinglet.

    Shoulder and waist straps are slightly stretchy and fully adjustable, so you can wear it over summer or winter clothes, it doesn't flap in the wind, and it doesn't greatly interfere with your jersey and/or jacket breathing. Plus, since it's an over-garment, it only needs occasional washing.

    ETA: I hung my Voler hi-viz jerseys out on the line the other day in bright sunshine, and I literally could not look at them, they were so bright
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 05-27-2008 at 06:49 PM.
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    It took me a while to realize that there's a big difference between 'reflective' and 'hi-vis'. Reflective materials work at night by bouncing off of headlights, but the stuff is generally pretty dull looking during the daytime. Hi-vis (screaming yellow or green) material is not necessarily reflective in headlights but is HIGHLY visible during the day in any light.
    I never ride in the dark, so I don't buy stuff because it has reflective strips on it. I buy stuff that's made of screaming yellow fluorescent colored material- like the Nightlife gear. It's shockingly bright during the daytime, when I ride. Nightlife items do have small reflective logos or strips here and there, but they basically work on the bright screaming yellow factor.
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    "It took me a while to realize that there's a big difference between 'reflective' and 'hi-vis'."

    Yeah. Exactly! I want/need something that provides BOTH.

    A lot of my rides (and runs) start in the dark and end in full daylight. Or the other way around.

    I love the "screaming yellow" blinding stuff for daytime. The issue I have with Pearl Izumi stuff I've tried in screaming yellow, is (besides the very poor fit on my body type) I'm not sure how reflective it is at night.

    Nice to know about Brooks, and it looks like Voler is an option too? Do the bright yellow Voler provide a lot of reflective taping for at night?

    Amphipod, that looks a little constricting to me...but I like Amphipod's other products. So...

    Thanks for all the ideas so far...Love the look of those Brooks tights and capris, too. Oh no, wallet is in trouble...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariposa View Post
    Do the bright yellow Voler provide a lot of reflective taping for at night?

    Amphipod, that looks a little constricting to me...
    Voler jerseys - admittedly not as much reflective material as I'd like. There's a 1 cm reflective strip around each sleeve, and just above the whole length of the bottom hem in the back.

    Amphipod - since it's fully adjustable and a little stretchy, you can set it up as tight or as loose as you like. It doesn't have to be tight for it to not flap in the wind. It does trap a little sweat, particularly under the waistband in back, but since it's pretty minimal to begin with I don't find that to be an issue. I wear it for both running and cycling and I barely know it's there.

    ETA, adjustment range of the Xinglet: I'm 5'3" and 123#, with a fairly short and thick waist (it's those highly developed obliques y'know ). I could make the Xinglet about 4" tighter or 16" looser in the waist, and about 6" shorter or 7" longer in the shoulder straps. And the non-reflective areas of the straps are hi-viz yellow, although obviously there's not a lot of surface area there.
    Last edited by OakLeaf; 05-28-2008 at 10:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    It took me a while to realize that there's a big difference between 'reflective' and 'hi-vis'. Reflective materials work at night by bouncing off of headlights, but the stuff is generally pretty dull looking during the daytime. Hi-vis (screaming yellow or green) material is not necessarily reflective in headlights but is HIGHLY visible during the day in any light.
    I never ride in the dark, so I don't buy stuff because it has reflective strips on it. I buy stuff that's made of screaming yellow fluorescent colored material- like the Nightlife gear. It's shockingly bright during the daytime, when I ride. Nightlife items do have small reflective logos or strips here and there, but they basically work on the bright screaming yellow factor.
    Good one. That's what I want, shockingly bright. I was driving in my neighborhood the other day and could not see a cyclist coming towards me. He had a dark blue jersey on. This is the color I like to wear. Yikes! It was late afternoon, hours before sunset. He blended in with the background. I wasn't close to hitting him or anything, but geeze... taught me a lesson.

    So my next purchases will be loud and obnoxious, bright yellow... red... lime green.... or all three.

 

 

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