Like Eden, I get that lovely gap in the back. I'm told that styles are coming up and I'm glad. Few women look good in this style. Most have the muffin top going - not flattering. Add the tramp stamp & they're decked out for the truck stop.

LL Bean & Liz Claiborne jeans seem to have more than 4" of rise. I agree with Songlady that you can't seem to find jeans that have a flat profile & that's annoying.