I don't pretend to be enamoured of long sustained climbs, etc...but it has made a difference to move to a place where the climate makes it abit easier to do hills...when the air is not as humid, smells fresher and temp. just cooler ..even in summer.
Vancouver is like Seattle: there are some short steep, others longer in the heart of city and outward.. if you are planning a ride more than 30 kms...you are bound to have at least a hill somewhere in your ride in the city of Vancouver or City of North Vancouver. Can be a different in suburbs where it is a flatter..but only certain parts.
AFter moving to Vancouver and cycling around last few years, I now don't consider a real fitness ride, unless the ride route does have an appreciable hill or 2 or 3, etc... meaning 5-10% grade at least...where one is forced to go up.
Streets that ascend on a hill and ascend long, with many cars.. which also have busy 4 way traffic intersections and several of them along the way...just don't agree with me. A bit of pain in butt when loaded down with full panniers of groceries...etc...to get the restart on bike with me doing several mini-hops to get back on bike...grrrrr.




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