[QUOTE=GLC1968;319772]Ice water doesn't stay ice water under the southern sun for more than an hour or so. And at 97 degrees and 85% humidity - anything on your back that doesn't breathe is pretty miserable!
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The one I have has some "lifter padding" against my back, and while out in 95 and 14% humidity (desert life -- they say it's "muggy" when the humidity is like 25%. what they've got to learn around here!) on Sunday afternoon, water loaded at 8:15 in the morning was still nice and cool -- and my cell phone was downright chilly!

naw, it wasn't an all day ride, it was down to my daughter's nail salon, sit around, downtown to the home show and outdoor concert, sit around, and then home at the hot part of the day, when DH finally got tired of sitting around! Good thing we had a nice breeze and some shade!

Karen in Boise