Loose/MTB long shorts or knee-length capri

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I don't wear the liner shorts with mine. I've got Ibex Roaster boxers and plain ol' UnderArmour compression shorts that work great under the PI capris and the Harlot Habits. (liner shorts never fit me right, and most modern chamois don't fit me at all anyway)

For me, the whole point is to have some chamois. Otherwise, I wouldn't spend $85 on pants. If these don't work out, I'll just remove the liner shorts and wear my regular cycling shorts underneath and consider it a lesson learned.