Thanks Catherine, I'll find out soon won't I? I'll only keep the pingo if I love it. BTW, I did order a plum norgie crew on SC......... The thing of it is, that it is April in Texas, and I am sitting in my office, in my green Kate and black Shak........... So, I use this stuff year round. I probably wear my black shak more than any other piece. Catherine, you know you want one (and it looks amazing with a green kate underneath...............).