wow old thread brought back up how did I miss it?

Yes please give it another try.

And yes join a club and you can get "free" pointers and training from the club. If you want to win, train with the boys every once in a while.

I used to do the free for all to the top of the hill. I never got to the top first but it does wonder to your training.

And unlike most, I spent great deal of time on the trainer because there are way too many stop signs and lights. My HR would drop to normal while waiting for the light to turn green. not what you want when you are training. It doesn't matter if you bonk on the trainer, you are home

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