Love the passionate discussion.
Just want to clarify some things. When I say I am straight and will never be anything but I didn't say it to pass judgement. Being straight for me is a biological thing. I didn't choose it - that's just the way I am. I physically like men although they at times drive me nuts. I don't know for a fact (but hopefully will be informed otherwise) but I believe most gay people don't choose that orientation - they just are. That is the way God made them and to hate/ridicule/berrate/condemn one of God's creations is just wrong, no matter who you are.
I realize there is a Catch 22 in most states. I do believe a committed gay couple should be allowed to have a civil ceremony to confirm their commitment. They are no different than a regular straight couple in that way they love each other and wish to care for one another. I had two dear friends, who were in a comittment relationship, that went through alot of grief and hassle when one of the partners contracted AIDS. The one partner had no say or control over the sick partner which was unfortunate. They were together for 16 years. The remaining partner is a good friend to this day and we both grieve over the loss of his one true love.
It's difficult when viewpoints are so opposite. I am sometimes frustrated by the fact that everyone is allowed to express their views but mention you are a conversative christian and that viewpoint is condemned/belittled for being "preaching" or "judgement". We all judge things in our own way. Liberals judge our government by saying the Iraqi war is wrong or by arguing the far left viewpoint is the viewpoint of all conversatives and conversely, I agree, there are conservatives that think all liberals are "pinko commies".
I have my beliefs as others have their but I enjoy and look forward to listening to what everyone has to offer. It's important to hear the other side, to learn and understand another viewpoint. I'm interested in hearing what obstrucles and problems the gay community has encountered in order to understand what it is like to live as a Liberal Gay American in a country that is prodominantly Christian Conservative.
The cool thing about being an American is that we can have these discussions. Here, life is truly good.
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Edited to add: Trek - Appreciate your response. I misspoke when I said Marriage is a Christian belief - it is - but clearly it started with Judiasm (sp?) The Old Testament/Jewish Laws are the basis of my Christian beliefs. The Jews are God's chosen people. For me to believe otherwise is wrong.
It's difficult sometimes in this type of forum to adequately express viewpoints and beliefs because the discourse and response is not immediately. I am not a gay bashing/jew hating person. Uncertain how that has come across in what I have posted, but if anyone has been offended, I apologize.



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