Rode an Orbea Diva w/ Campy Record Today

[Starfish]

JoNY, definitely will try a Ruby. As well as a Roubaix, Tarmac, Madone and others.

What I find on my bike, and this was true on the Diva, too, was that in the hoods I feel a smidge too streched out, but in the drops not low or stretched out enough.

I'm kinda wondering if one of the more aggressive women's bikes, shorter but lower, might help...like the new Scott for women. Someone here on TE got one not too long ago.

[Julibird]

What I find on my bike, and this was true on the Diva, too, was that in the hoods I feel a smidge too streched out, but in the drops not low or stretched out enough.

Did they measure you (reach, shoulders, legs, etc) and adjust the bike before you set out or was it a guesstimate?

If the stem or bars were changed, would that effect your decision?

IIWY - I would ask the shop to fit the bike to you before testing it - when you start narrowing down your serious choices. I think a Diva deserves that kind of consideration!

[Starfish]

Michaela: Nope, I was on a pink one. I am interested to try a Ruby, too. Having a Specialized right now, with the zertz, I couldn't help but wonder if they really do help. I know what you mean about the Orbeas, though...to me they are just SOooo beautiful compared to what else is out there.

Also, I did a 7 day tour through Eastern WA a few years ago (and I used to live over there). I LOVE riding out on those country roads! Have you talked to BikerHen yet? She is over that way.

Julibird: Thanks. Yes, it was just a guesstimate for this ride. I did not set out to actually test any bikes that day...it was kind of a lark. I think the frame size was pretty close, because of a fit I had done at my shop recently, but I agree that if I was actually getting serious about putting the Diva on a short list, another test would be in order, with more customizing.

The thing I have not figured out yet is: The hoods feel a bit too far away, and the drops feel a bit close or high. Do others feel this way often? Wondering what fixes this...angle of bars, etc?

[Beane]

The thing I have not figured out yet is: The hoods feel a bit too far away, and the drops feel a bit close or high. Do others feel this way often? Wondering what fixes this...angle of bars, etc?

One thing that might make a difference is the type of bars. Some have nice short reach, but also very shallow drop. It sounds like you'd prefer a deeper drop. The Modolo venus bars (which i keep thinking about getting but haven't yet) seem to have a short reach to the hoods (and short reach from drops to levers) but a deeper drop. Don't quote me on this though, since I've never seen them in person. I think Kathi on this forum has them (do a search?) . You might also find that rotating the bars toward you would move the drops farther away, but I dunno.

BTW, there is a sweet looking diva on ebay right now...

[VeloVT]

Hey Starfish,
It was me who got the Scott (Contessa CR1 pro). I should say here that the Contessa CR1 pro uses exactly the same frame as the men's/unisex version of the CR1 (although they've pinked it a little). The difference is components, the Contessa comes with smaller handlebars, short-reach shifters, and stock it comes with compact gearing and shorter cranks (though I had them switch out to a standard double with 172.5s). I got an XS frame and the geometry seems pretty comfortable. (I think we're about the same height, I'm 5'6", 31.5" inseam).

Sadly, I"ve spent a lot of time on the trainer with it but haven't taken it outside yet. This week was the first nice weather we've had (we've had weeks of "mixed precip", yeah, wet snow, freezing rain, rain that freezes overnight, yuck ), but the roads are still really awful, sandy/gravelly/salty and I'm feeling protective of my shiny new bike still. However, it feels great on the trainer . Hoping the road ride quality is similar.

Orbeas are very sexy looking bikes. I've never ridden one so I can't comment on the ride. I can say that I picked up a Diva at the shop and was stunned to find even the very small size I picked up significantly heavier than the larger men's Orbea I hefted (which was either the Onix or the Orca I think, another full carbon frame). This leads me to suspect they may use a lesser quality of carbon in the Diva. Definitely ride more carbon bikes before giving up on carbon, because different carbons can feel very, very different. They can feel kind of wooden, or they can feel really, really silky but stiff at the same time. Two summers ago now I tested bunches of carbon bikes when my bf was buying a bike... Depending on your budget, I would suggest trying a Cervelo. Bf eventually decided on a Madone because it was so much less expensive and he couldn't justify the Cervelo for his purposes, but the R3 was by far our favorite bike. He wandered into the shop we tested it at last week and saw the 2007 model in his size marked down to about what he paid for the Madone and turned a little green about the gills momentarily .

Oh yeah, I forfeit my right to comment, I bought my most recent bike online without ever test riding it first .

[Starfish]

Hi Beane and Liza, thanks! That is a bunch of good feedback.

I actually think the Scott might be sometihng I need to try, because I really am not sure I need a shorter woman's frame...but I definitely DO need the women's bars and short reach, etc. In fact, I am also 5'6"...but my legs are a full 2 inches shorter than yours!

I'm surprised about the Diva vs. the Orca for weight. The Diva I hoisetd was super light...although I did not compare to Orca. I understand that the Diva has tubes calibrated for women...thinner tubes, etc, for women?

Anyhow, this is all good input. Thanks!

[VeloVT]

A slight annoyance with the Scott -- my XS bike came with 40cm Ritchey Biomax bars. I really like Ritchey Biomax bars -- I had put them on my old bike even. They are short-drop bars , and they have nice swept-back tops and the anatomic bend is reasonably comfortable.

But who puts 40cm bars on a bike that also specs 165mm cranks??? Obviously designed by a man! I switched out the cranks for 172.5s (but I don't hold the crank spec against them, it would probably be appropriate for a lot of people looking at an XS frame). But I really think, at least on the XS frame (on a WSD bike) they should have spec'd 38s. Come to think of it, I haven't checked to men's version -- I almost doubt they'd spec 42s on an XS men's bike though. I think my bf's 52 cm Madone came with 40s...

I can ride the 40s, so I'm not in a tear to replace them, but I likely will eventually. I've ridden 38s, 40s and 42s and 38s are definitely the most comfortable for me.

Off topic, Deda makes its lightweight Newton Bar in a 40 o-o (same as standard 38) size in the anatomic bend, but annoyingly they don't make it in that size in the bend style that looks super comfortable (the shallow traditional bend they call "Italian classic"). Since the president of Castelli noticed our complaints I'm hoping maybe the Deda people will notice too!!!!! Deda, please make the Italian Classic bend Newton bar in the 40 cm o-o size!!!!