Do you drive a Subarau Forester or Ford Escape?

[Starfish]

We like the x-trail but it's too much like a soccer mom's car. We'd like something with a bit rougher image.

<knowing nod>

I know you said the Element was out...I think something about not available where you are? I am just relating to your comment above. I had a HARD time choosing my Element over getting a truck like I used to have.

Lots of things about the Element image I had a hard time with. I even spent some time thinking of license plate frames I would have to get in order to dispel some stereotypes. But, now that I have it, it is so incredibly handy for everything I want it to do, that I know I am stuck with it. I like it.

May you find both the utility and the image you desire! LOL

[crazycanuck]

May the force be with us..

We don't have to rush quite yet..We'll wait until we get back from our overseas trip & then get into it..

[KnottedYet]

Lots of things about the Element image I had a hard time with. I even spent some time thinking of license plate frames I would have to get in order to dispel some stereotypes.

What is the Element image and stereotype?

[Starfish]

What is the Element image and stereotype?

Knot, I'm going to skirt this question, because I realize I should not have posted that. In the clear light of day this morning ( ) I realize I might have started a discussion that could quickly become divisive on a lot of levels, and I don't want to do that!

[Irulan]

What is the Element image and stereotype?

me three, tell us! I know about Forresters but not Elements.

[Irulan]

well, I just got this:

As I was giving my Subaru to my son, had to replace it.
Our requirements were wagon, affordable, +30 mpg, nice trim level.
Mazda 3



I honestly don't understand why anyone buying a car today would look at less than a 30 mpg vehicle. Subarus are great and all that, but until they can bring their mileage up I wouldn't consider buying another one. I hear that if you are really, really careful you can squeak about 28 out of them, but that is not most people.

[KnottedYet]

I get 32 mpg out of my Impreza, 36 on the freeway if I stay at 65 mph. (Imprezas are the little Subies with the regular engine.)

I still wanna know about stereotypes for Elements and Foresters.... anyone wanna PM me?

[Irulan]

I get 32 mpg out of my Impreza, 36 on the freeway if I stay at 65 mph.

I still wanna know about stereotypes for Elements and Foresters.... anyone wanna PM me?

Oops, I meant for Outbacks.

[KnottedYet]

Yeah, the larger Subies are not the best at mileage. My Legacy (the big wagon, but not as sexy as a Legacy Outback) got 24 mpg or so on a good day. Then the engine kinda went toes-up and i was getting 17 mpg!!

A new engine was tooooo expensive, so I traded it in on my Impreza. But I was pretty tempted by the Element and the Scion XB. I was looking for room for the dog/kid/bikes/junk.

My concern with the Element was that at the time it wasn't available with stick and all wheel drive. The dealer tried to convince me I'd like an automatic just fine, but nope. I was also a little worried about getting SKnot in and out of the car through the overlapping doors, and the stability of the "B" pillar. (now that he's big enough to sit in the front seat that's no longer an issue)

[Blueberry]

I still wanna know about stereotypes for Elements and Foresters.... anyone wanna PM me?

I'd like to know too - PM is fine Just wondering what my car says about me

[Irulan]

I'd like to know too - PM is fine Just wondering what my car says about me

heck, there's 25 pages of google on the subject...
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/othe...esbianCars.htm

[Starfish]

I honestly don't understand why anyone buying a car today would look at less than a 30 mpg vehicle.

Well, my Element doesn't get great mileage...but it is the perfect mix of everything I want my vehicle to do.

- The AWD is great in the snow.
- The low height and interior dimensions make it a snap to load my bike and keep it locked inside, without removing any wheels.
- I can sleep in it fully stretched out, also with my bike locked inside with me.
- I can stand up in it (with a hunch, of course) for pee'ing (TMI? But this is very handy) in the night while camping and for changing.
- It is a GREAT tent for when I camp...which I do alone, and like being locked in.
- I moved furniture last weekend, and the taller interior made it easy for dressers, etc.
- The non-carpet interior is easy to clean and does not pick up moisture like carpet-lined cars.
- The rear power jack lets me work on my computer as long as I like when out for working-weekends.

There are just a lot of things I really like about it. So far, it just works for me. I looked at a lot of other cars, but none had this combination of what I wanted (except the Chevy Astrovan 4WD...but mileage wasn't any better, and there were other things I didn't want in the Astrovan...although those things, on their truck chassis, are amazing, affordable, and go like 300,000 miles easily...they also have cavernous space.)