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  1. #1
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    Lightbulb One Small Justice...BBC Article

    This is on the BBC...another reason why cell phones and cars don't mix...


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...re/7270751.stm

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    There is the small point that the cyclist ran the red light. Us cyclists have to obey the rules of the road too. 'Cause when it comes to physics, we're going to loose.
    Beth

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    I may get harsh words for this but...

    I do not see the fact that he ran a red light a "small point" I used to ride with groups that followed the law...and now ride with groups who ignore those red lights/signs. I get so ANGRY!!!! The groups who followed the law seemed to get more respect from drivers...more waves to go ahead at 4-way stops.

    How are we supposed to stand up and demand equal rights to the road if we continue to ignore the rules?

    How can we expect drivers to respect cyclist as a whole when there are those out there causing (yes causing) accidents?

    *** I am NOT saying this driver had every right to be texting, or going 15 miles an hour over the speed limit...but think about it...if they had met at the same spot at the same time in that intersection if she were paying attention and driving the legal limit...would he fair any better??? maybe...maybe not...but he still ran a red light. green means go...

    Sympathies all the same to the families...
    I am a nobody; nobody is perfect, and therefore I am perfect.

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    I do believe the 'small point' was meant in the 'understatement' way.

    The other 'small point' is that the driver had already been convicted of causing death with her driving, and was at the time going 45 in a 30 zone.

    In Chicago, a 29-year-old was recently killed as he ran a red light - as had the others in the alleycat race. When will they ever learn?

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geonz View Post
    The other 'small point' is that the driver had already been convicted of causing death with her driving
    I think it was for the same incident. She had been convicted earlier, and now she is being sentenced... Doesn't mean she killed two people.

    And yes, I agree that it is bad bad bad that the cyclist ran the light. Yes, drivers stink about cyclists, but many cyclists also ride around like they think they are invincible. Considering the biker had run a light, I'm actually surprised the driver is going to jail. I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it... I'm actually not sure about that. Clearly she was wrong to mess with her phone while driving. That would have been a hard jury to serve on.

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geonz View Post
    I do believe the 'small point' was meant in the 'understatement' way.

    DOH!!! You are right! I guess my emotions got ahold of me and blurred that...

    I only hope the driver focuses on the fact she should not have been on the phone rather than come out of all this a cyclist-hater!

    This is just like the cyclist in Chicago...because he failed to follow the rules people are suffering! The poor families in these incidents...

    Yes...this would be an extremely difficult jury to serve on!!! But it only will make me LOUDER when preachin' the ways of safe cycling!!!
    I am a nobody; nobody is perfect, and therefore I am perfect.

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    How does anyone even text and drive at the same time? Talking on the phone I can understand (don't agree with, but at least see how it's possible) but I can barely text when I'm standing still and concentrating.

 

 

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