Queer-eye for the straight woman

[Wahine]

Thank you Snap. You make a very good point.

[maillotpois]

+1.

Snap, crackle & POP.

[Xrayted]

Thank you Snap. Beautifully said.

[Trek420]

I'm sick of it; to the point where I wonder if I even want to be a part of this community any more.

Noooooooo, Snap, don't leave. You stay, I'll go. I think I'll got to Walmart first and get some beef.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Noooooooo, Snap, don't leave. You stay, I'll go. I think I'll got to Walmart first and get some beef.

Don't forget to buy one of those nice new Chinese bikes while you're there.

[VeloVT]

I'm really disappointed that another lighthearted post has been turned into yet another soapbox on TE. Are we so wrapped up in our own PC world, that we need to school everyone whenever we feel a possible slight.

It's not just this post, and the use of the word queer. It's the "I'm so much better because I don't shop at walmart", "I never eat beef so I'm a much better human", "all conservative Christians are stupid".

People have been driven off these boards by the holier than thou behavior of a few, and I'm sick of it; to the point where I wonder if I even want to be a part of this community any more.

//snap - straight, queer loving, pagan, liberal that believes in tolerance for everyone, not just those you agree with.

You know, I really disagree with this. What's the alternative to "being so wrapped up in our PC world that we have to school everyone whenever we feel a possible slight"? Sitting at the dinner table and eating up someone's offensive black jokes because objecting to them would be "holier than thou"?

And who really wants to be "tolerated" anyway ? (And one is forced to wonder how far "toleration" really goes, if it does not admit others the right to express their differences).

I don't have a dog in this fight (that is, I'm not gay and so **I** did not feel stereotyped by the original post), but I think the community needs to allow everyone the right to let others know if they have, perhaps unknowingly and unintentionally, caused offense. I remember seeing threads about breast implants and "may -- december" romance here recently in which valuable discussion ensued from members exercising their right to respectfully let others know they have been offended.

That's all.

[lph]

I agree - when someone feels offended or feel that they are bearing the brunt of a common sterotype I'd much rather they said so, in a gentle manner, instead of grinning and bearing it.

It doesn't have to be a fullout argument, just a discussion that can give a little insight both ways. The only thing we have in common on this forum is biking, so we SHOULD expect somebody, somewhere to disagree with almost any other value or idea we express.

[Wahine]

Correct me if wrong, but the way I see it is this:

Light hearted thread started with a possibly less than PC title.

One poster responds in a very nice way to what she perceives as a stereotype that she would rather not see perpetuated and finishes her post with a light hearted comment about clothing color. She commented in a very nice way and tried to keep things light.

Then it became a bit of a soap box that was no longer fun and may make people hesitant to post ideas.

I don't think the issue is expressing yourself here or your ideals. Just how it is done. If we want to be an inclusive group, we should be phrasing our posts in an appropriate manner and not making judgemental statements.

OK, now I have officially gotten onto the soap box. And you can all shoot me down.

[salsabike]

I'm really disappointed that another lighthearted post has been turned into yet another soapbox on TE. Are we so wrapped up in our own PC world, that we need to school everyone whenever we feel a possible slight.

It's not just this post, and the use of the word queer. It's the "I'm so much better because I don't shop at walmart", "I never eat beef so I'm a much better human", "all conservative Christians are stupid".

People have been driven off these boards by the holier than thou behavior of a few, and I'm sick of it; to the point where I wonder if I even want to be a part of this community any more.

//snap - straight, queer loving, pagan, liberal that believes in tolerance for everyone, not just those you agree with.

I think Snap has a point. And rather than thinking about what anyone else is saying, I think I will just try to keep an eye on my own posts.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

...And rather than thinking about what anyone else is saying, I think I will just try to keep an eye on my own posts.

Best suggestion so far.

[Trek420]

I will just try to keep an eye on my own posts.

Me too. Now can we go on to chocolate and blue cheese?

[Veronica]

Me too. Now can we go on to chocolate and blue cheese?

No - not together.

Check out Brandy's Blog. She has a good chocolate supplier.

V.

[Trek420]

No - not together.

Why not? Cheese and chocolate go together ever had mascarpone dipped in chocolate? Yum Blue cheese goes with port, pears, candied walnuts .... blue cheese goes with sweet things. Why not chocolate?

I think I've been without a kitchen too long and it's effecting my brains.

[LoriO]

I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my title, that was NOT my intent. I was using the name of a very well known TV show with a twist to fit the situation. I had had a wonderful shopping experience with a really awesome salesperson that was hilarious to boot and thought it would be fun to share.

I have had many gay friends and even was practically raised by a gay man when my father decided he didn't want the job. My mom's business partner and close friend stepped in and was a wonderful father figure for me as I grew up.

Guess I'll just go back to lurking..........

[crazycanuck]

Lori-don't lurk I understand what you were trying to say.

YOu're stil part of the wacky women TE crowd.. Keep posting!