Queer-eye for the straight woman

[Duck on Wheels]

Yes, and if anyone were to say "well you cook, have good fashion and design sense ... you sure you're straight? "

He just stands up and up and up and says "Yeah, and you gotta problem with that?" then does a fingertip chin up.

Remember when I came out (to my sibs first) oh about '75 or so, I remember either you or BrotheroftheDuckonwheels saying that our mutual parents had asked if mutual brother might be batting for the other team. Brotheronwheels is very much on the Het side of the Kinsey scale but a slave to fashion. When pegging jeans was the thing he pegged his own, he dresses very well to this day, likes Native American massive jewelry and almost always dresses in black. Dayuhm he cleans up nice. I could learn a thing or two from him

So they thought he might be .... but he's not. BTW I also know G@y guys who I just love bunches but they don't have the fashion/design sense G*d gave lettuce.

So here he is with his grandson in a rare moment of color. Note for comparison purposes the Dad to the right; black tennis shoes with shorts? I think it's a fashion don't. Ladies (and Gent) whadya think? Can a guy wear colorful clothes or are we doomed to blue, gray and black?

Of course I'm not one to talk, the electricians are here, my power is off and I'm STILL in sweats.

So I might as well continue the de-cluttering. What I learned on QEFTSG is that if you haven't worn it in a year or more .... donate it. You probably will not wear it. So another load of donations to the thrift store.

Musta been mutual brother who told you that one, cuz this is the first I've heard of it. Thought never even struck me. The guy likes Hawaiian shirts and fashionable shoes. So? When mutual mom doesn't have time to peg pants, or won't peg them as tight as fashion demands, he learns to sew. So? When wife nr. 1 keeps postponing sewing that sports jacket she bought yardage and pattern for, he learns to tailor. So? So I decided I could sew a jacket too and did a 3-piece suit for the dh over here. Th'thought never occured to me that any of this meant anything else. I do recall your coming-out-letter tho'. I'd written to you that I was preggers, and that tho' this would work out fine, was no crisis, and would not keep me from finishing school, you should probably not follow my example. You wrote back that you and your lover had no intention of getting pregnant, either of you.

As for ds rising up and up and up and then pulling himself up on a rafter edge by his finger tips ...? Prob'ly right. He won a bouldering contest today. Jess wait til June. He's not only taller than last time you saw him, he's also built a lot of upper body muscle.

[Trek420]

He's taller? That's not humanly possible

They'll want to go here

http://www.greenbelt.org/getinvolved...nders/sthelena

Most of the people I know wear all kinds of interesting colors and styles..

Yes, you're an artist, the artist formerly known as .... so it's natch that you're flock towards people with an aesthetic sense and interesting ideas about color, texture.

I'm not sure what the question is- *Is* there a question?

My question, if i have one, and this is because I tend to overthink things IS there a "Queer eye"? Or a straight one for that matter?

[Mr. Bloom]

And slightly OT as these things tend to go, Mr. Silver (and any other men-folk on the board and/or women with opinions on this isue): what's with all the dark blue, gray, black? Why no bright colors?

Trek, are you talking about cycling attire or business attire?

If it's cycling attire, I agree. There are ....hmmmm....anatomical....hmmmm....reasons that a man should choose black cycling shorts (there's been a post about this one before with pictures...and I really felt sorry for one of the guys), but I'm all for bright jerseys. I got a collection of Royal Blue that I never wear...favoring bright yellow instead. In addition, my riding jacket is florescent lime green.

If it's business attire, colors don't work. Suits are expensive. A man can wear two different dark suits all week and no one would know. If I had a two week rotation of suits of different colors, I'd have nearly $8,000 wrapped up in suits @ $800/each. I'm going to stick with dark and bland. Besides, bright suits are so 80's...and generally require polyester double-knit I wear dark suits, starched white shirts, striped ties, grey socks, and black shoes. Every work day

If it's casual, I have a collection of LaCoste shirts ...including pink, lavender, sunflower...looking at their website, it seems their colors are a bit muted this season...

...but I'll post a picture of my casual socks collection...you'll like!

But 'oy...this will get us off on a utilikilt tangent again

[Trek420]

'oy...this will get us off on a utilikilt tangent again

Well a girl can always hope.

Hey, didn't you promise to wear one to work? Or was that bike shorts and a suit?

[Mr. Bloom]

Well a girl can always hope.

Hey, didn't you promise to wear one to work? Or was that bike shorts and a suit?

It was shorts and a suit...but alas, I've taken the pictures off the 'net didn't want them to come back and haunt me when I run for president

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

It was shorts and a suit...but alas, I've taken the pictures off the 'net didn't want them to come back and haunt me when I run for president

Hah!- there's always the Wayback Machine.....
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

Trek- I tend to think of it more as an artistic eye vs. a non-artistic eye, rather than a queer eye vs. a straight eye. There are plentiful people around with absolutely no sense of style, both straight and gay!

And you're right, I do tend to hang out with some interesting people (of all walks of life though, not just artists) I purposely seek out the company of unique or creative people. ...and perhaps their unique clothing styles alert me and help me recognize them as interesting people to want to get to know.
It's all so interesting.

[boy in a kilt]

I've always been taught that in the business world, dark suits are basically your uniform. These rules of thumb may be a little dated, but brown suits are considered "weak". Also, double-breasted suits are generally only appropriate for men of higher status.

Fortunately, I've never had a job wear I had to wear a suit and am not likely to do so because I don't have the qualifications to get such a job.

I'm kinda weird about jerseys. I'm fat enough that I look like a sausage in most jerseys. I'm also cheap enough that if I drop more than about $40 on a jersey, it had best be wool. Those two things alone rule out most of the colorful ones.

[mimitabby]

where I work sometimes I am revolted by the fact that all the guys are wearing shades of beige and tan. (there are some exceptions at my office, but they are VERY noticeable)
sometimes i will see 3 in a row wearing their tan khaki pants and their excruciatingly boring matching shirts, and I say Don't you guys have anything more colorful??? WHO PICKS THESE CLOTHES OUT????
and to a man; the response is: MY WIFE.
there are 3 guys in my office who dress themselves in COLORS; two are bachelors, one is 25 years old (and married).

My gay brother didn't have great taste in clothes... I guess he didn't fit the stereotype either.

[Wahine]

I have a brother who is 6'3" and very built, he is a total metrosexual and dressed me when we were teens. Great fashion sense and straight.

I have several close male friends... same.

My husband has great design and clothing sense and thinks nothing of wearing bright clothes. He sometimes gets mistaken for g@y. No he's not.

I have a very straight male friend who dresses badly in women's clothing.

I met a g@y man horticulturalist today with absolutely no fashion sense what so ever.

Only once in my life has anyone been able to pull a pair of jeans off of the rack for me and have them fit without even asking me my size. A g@y man.

I have a client that is a professional snowboarder that came into treatment with purple jeans and a bright yellow t-shirt. It really hurt my eyes. But it was colorful.

[silver]

sometimes i will see 3 in a row wearing their tan khaki pants and their excruciatingly boring matching shirts, and I say Don't you guys have anything more colorful??? WHO PICKS THESE CLOTHES OUT????

Once, in the office, my lavender shirt was referred to as "light in the loafers purple" and my pink one as "powder boy pink"...coming from three SVP's who reported to meI'm clearly a boss who creates WAY too comfortable of a work environment

[silver]

he is a total metrosexual

When the phrase was first coined in the late 80's, it was "metromale". I prefer that...otherwise, it's like we've established one additional sexual orientation...

Oops....This is Mr. Silver (not Silver)typing on Silver's computer!!!

[bmccasland]

I wear dark suits, starched white shirts, striped ties, grey socks, and black shoes.

Mr. Silver and anyother gent on line needing ties.... I was at an higher end mall yesterday (between the French Quarter and the convention center) - that caters mainly to the tourist trade, and saw some really funky ties. How do you feel about Tobasco, want a big bottle of it on a tie?

My former eye doctor used to wear the funkiest ties, with this office suits. Some of them from a distance looked like the conservative little patterns, until you got close. When he retired, I told him I'd miss his great care, and his ties.

So if you need something cheerful, or ladies you want to brighten up your favorite suit, I'm willing to aid and abet.

[Trek420]

Once, in the office, my lavender shirt was referred to as "light in the loafers purple" and my pink one as "powder boy pink"...coming from three SVP's who reported to meI'm clearly a boss who creates WAY too comfortable of a work environment

OK, now I'm confused, and this is before the 2nd cuppa. So I'm talking to Mr. Silver logged in as Silver, right? 'cause if it's Silver uhm, nice suit and tie.

So you're a boss who tolerates barely juuuuuuuust this side of the line of the EEO policy ribbing of gays or appearances assumed to be gay?

So is this why all the black, blue and gray? Because "real men" don't wear color or only certain colors or the other boys on the playground will tease them and only when it's a bike jersey and then when the ride's over it's right back into uniform?

That's so sad

Speaking of ties, has anyone seen the Carlos Santana line of ties? They are wild. And the money raised goes to his Milagros Foundation (for kids charities).

[OakLeaf]

So you're a boss who tolerates barely juuuuuuuust this side of the line of the EEO policy ribbing of gays or appearances assumed to be gay?

He's in Indiana. Discrimination based on sexual orientation is perfectly legal.

Although I do have to say that in a world where universities have Queer Studies departments, it seems to me that that word at least has been thoroughly reclaimed, and a good thing too. Now if only we could do the same for the B word that this forum won't let me type.

[snapdragen]

I'm really disappointed that another lighthearted post has been turned into yet another soapbox on TE. Are we so wrapped up in our own PC world, that we need to school everyone whenever we feel a possible slight.

It's not just this post, and the use of the word queer. It's the "I'm so much better because I don't shop at walmart", "I never eat beef so I'm a much better human", "all conservative Christians are stupid".

People have been driven off these boards by the holier than thou behavior of a few, and I'm sick of it; to the point where I wonder if I even want to be a part of this community any more.

//snap - straight, queer loving, pagan, liberal that believes in tolerance for everyone, not just those you agree with.