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  1. #1
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    Keep us updated! I am still on the fence about buying one
    Because not every fast cyclist is a toothpick...

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  2. #2
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    I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few of us watching this thread with interest. I'm a member of the " quest for a comfy saddle club", as many of you are. I'm very tempted to by a selle smp of some sort but reluctant to shell out big bucks for something that may have a negative result. Again, like many of you I'm slowly building up a collection of unwanted saddles. The last one being a jet 143. I so had hopes for the jett being the right one. wrong!
    So, I'll keep reading, watching, researching and thinking. In the meantime I get totally envious/jealous of those who hop on a new roadbike and "love it to bits" from the very first ride. Sigh

  3. #3
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    Decision made -- the Stratos saddle is a keeper! I decided today after my 2nd ride outdoors. Yesterday was only 20 miles, but in a 20 mph wind it was long enough. I don't shift around much in wind, I tend to ride hunkered down & normally come back rubbed & irritated up front -- no rubbing yesterday. Today was a 40-mile ride in hills. I'm pretty active on the seat on a hill ride, I move forwards & back, bend forward & shift around. I had a chance to go through all of that today, and again did not get rubbed up front. Despite the fact that there seems to be a cradle area that supports the sit-bones & the glutes, it still has enough of a platform that I can slide around fore & aft to relieve sitting in one spot. I was worried about a saddle that had only one "sweet spot", but this one has some room to roam around. I had to play with positioning a little again, because the bike on the trainer is not the bike I ride outdoors. And I might still tweak it some more, but overall I think it's good & will continue to work with it.

    Before anyone rushes out to order one, a couple of caveats:

    1) This sucker is firm! If you ride a seat with a lot of cush, you will either need shorts with a lot of cush in the padding, or you just might not be able to deal with it. I am used to a firm perch as I've been riding a carbon fiber shell for a couple of years, but it might not be tolerable for some others.

    2) Finding the right seating position is finicky & has tremendous impact on comfort. I would not give up right away based on first impressions, make some adjustments & give it a chance.

    3) I would not order a single saddle from the SMP line unless I had a 100% certainty of ability to return. I see some vendors, particularly the on-line shops, have a policy of you buy it, you own it. The saddle is too pricey & too finicky to gamble on.

    4) If you have an opportunity to try one from someone who has agreed to take it back if it doesn't work, order the skinniest one that will still support your sit-bones properly. The wider ones are not only wider in the back, but wider in the taper towards the nose, which might cause rubbing.

  4. #4
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    Well, I went into one of the LBSs yesterday who said there was no way they could get the Selle’s in through their importer and suggested I buy over the net. I’ll go into a couple more of the local LBSs first though, and see what they say. I would much sooner “try before I buy”.

    Koala, your comments confirm this for me. Thank you for such a detailed review… I am more encouraged than not by your posting as you have gone into very useful detail.

    It certatinly gives me more insight when I go to chat with LBSs about what I want – not just from the saddle, but from the shop themselves…
    Thank you

  5. #5
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    hey

    Hey RoadRaven,

    There's a Selle saddle for sale on the Tri WA site. No idea if you'd save yourself $$$ though?

    www.triwa.org.au

    c

  6. #6
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    Thanks CC
    Saw your post just after you posted it, but this is the first time I have logged in and am able to reply...
    Where on that site do i look
    I went to it, but there doesn't seem to be a "for sale" tab... and I didn't have time to look about when I was there, and today, from home, the page will not load

  7. #7
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    OK... I did it...

    I bought the STRIKE and I have my own little concord mounted on my TT bike...

    I have ridden it a few times this week, just in short half-hour rides, as I have the East Coast Champs this weekend - a crit on Saturday (my first crit ever) and the 25km time trial on Sunday. (The other two races are in Gisborne in two weeks).

    So I get to try it full-on and hard-out on Sunday.

    My first impressions are that it is very comfortable.

    I was worried after i had read someone (here? or somewhere else?) saying that the cut-out was so wide it felt (after some time) that it was like sitting on two hard ridges.
    But I have no sense of this after the short rides. Nothing feels squished or bruised.

    On my first ride, after adjusting for height and nose angle and feeling it was ok, I set out to do reps on false flats. After about fifteen minutes my right leg began aching... it took me a further ten minutes of messing about, pedaling with my knees in/out, pedaling fast and slow, before I realised that the seat was pessing into my thigh. So whipped out the allen keys and adjusted the seat 3-4mm to the left and it was fine. No leg discomfort - I guess the slightly wider nose made a tad of difference and showed up my uneven hips, or perhaps a leg longer than the other...

    I have had to put tape on one side of the nose as the place where the seat material is welded together is "sharp" - however, this will smooth down with wear...

    Anyways, I will check back in after Sunday. I should have ridden 10-20kms in a warm-up and cool-down, as well as the 25km ITT.

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRaven View Post
    OK... I did it...

    I bought the STRIKE and I have my own little concord mounted on my TT bike...

    I have ridden it a few times this week, just in short half-hour rides, as I have the East Coast Champs this weekend - a crit on Saturday (my first crit ever) and the 25km time trial on Sunday. (The other two races are in Gisborne in two weeks).

    So I get to try it full-on and hard-out on Sunday.

    My first impressions are that it is very comfortable.

    I was worried after i had read someone (here? or somewhere else?) saying that the cut-out was so wide it felt (after some time) that it was like sitting on two hard ridges.
    But I have no sense of this after the short rides. Nothing feels squished or bruised.

    On my first ride, after adjusting for height and nose angle and feeling it was ok, I set out to do reps on false flats. After about fifteen minutes my right leg began aching... it took me a further ten minutes of messing about, pedaling with my knees in/out, pedaling fast and slow, before I realised that the seat was pessing into my thigh. So whipped out the allen keys and adjusted the seat 3-4mm to the left and it was fine. No leg discomfort - I guess the slightly wider nose made a tad of difference and showed up my uneven hips, or perhaps a leg longer than the other...

    I have had to put tape on one side of the nose as the place where the seat material is welded together is "sharp" - however, this will smooth down with wear...

    Anyways, I will check back in after Sunday. I should have ridden 10-20kms in a warm-up and cool-down, as well as the 25km ITT.
    PLease let us know how you go with the Selle SMP saddle. My husband and I both trialled a couple of SMP saddles that we got on approval from the Australian distributor .... if we didn't like them we could send them back. My husband kept the Strike Plus and we returned the Glider. They were both too narrow for me (wide sit bones), but the cut-out and Concord nose were outstanding, its like there was no saddle there at all.

    I was disappointed that the lady's TRK was not leather like all the men's models.

    As I require the saddle for touring I am going to try the Selle SMP Martin Touring Saddle, but from the images on the US distibutor's web site it looks much wider in the nose than the other models (due to extra padding) and this may be a concern.

    BTW so many people think it looks goofy, but i think the SMP Strike saddles look racy, and it rides "fast".
    Last edited by cycotourer; 05-15-2008 at 01:12 AM. Reason: needs clarifacation

  9. #9
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    ok...
    A dream to ride on. The nose looks really wide, and at first glance I thought too wide... but my tape measure tells me its not, and so does my fanny

    The TT went well as far as soft tissue comfort went. I didn't move for 37 minutes, no standing, no 'scooching' - nothing... and I was not at all numb in my soft tissue, no pain or discomfort at all.

    Unfortunately, the horizontal/directional angle was STILL a bit wrong, and for the entire 37 minutes the right side of the nose pressed into my right inner thigh which meant my leg was in extreme pain (but being the stubborn person I am I didn't stop race mode). You can read about this aspect of the seat in the racing forum - ECNI Champs 2008.

    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=23375

    But I am going to persevere as there was no bruising or swelling like I would normally have after the all-out effort I try to apply in an ITT.

    I'll update again when I have had a chance to ride again on it... maybe this coming Sunday.

    Like you, cyco, I like the concord racey look of the seat. Thanks for your reviews too.
    Last edited by RoadRaven; 05-15-2008 at 10:44 AM.

  10. #10
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    Hey guys, any updates on the results of the Allay women's seat? Has anyone tried both the Selle SMP TRK ladies and the Allay?

  11. #11
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    I have ridden them both. The SMP Lady Strike and the Allay Sport 175mm. I tossed the Allay in the trash. That is after drooling over the Allay website for months before it was in production and nagging my LBS for 2 months to order it. I really thought the Allay was going to be the answer to saddle needs. Nope.

    First, I like the SMP concept. It is a very friendly saddle with respect to the girlie bits. It is very comfortable when riding in the drops with that nose for support. My issue is that the Lady Strike is just a teensy bit too narrow and/or too cushy for me at the sit bones when I'm riding comfy (e.g., hands on the hoods). As such, I get numbness in the left hip. So, my goal was to find a saddle that is a little wider, a little less cushy and still kept the naughty bits happy.

    Enter the Allay. It looked right. Everything about it should have been right. But what I found was that the rear was so soft that I couldn't sit on the saddle. The foam would compress and I kept rolling off the rear platform and into the sling. If I put the air support pillow back in, then it wasn't comfortable since now I rolled forward onto the harder pillow I tried nosing it up and down, but to no avail.

    For me, the Allay just didn't work. I was disappointed and surprised. Everything I read on the Allay site seemed to indicate that they really understood saddles (because, of course, they agreed with my anecdotal research ), but Allay over stuffed the wider saddle. I'd love to hear someone else's opinion on one of the other versions.

 

 

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