OK, spent a day paddle rafting and I'm back.... hacked that other post out way to early in the am yesterday.

I think that some church's unwillingness to allow non-celibate behaviors, or to not allow women to participate comes goes very far back to the origins of some religions. The point was made about celibacy of a way concentraing spritual power,which is a universal practice. However in this day and age I think that is misplaced for some religions. The history of the priesthood needs to be looked at in a historical context too : both in the how the priest hood was used to replace other, older religious forms, and how it was taught that it is only through a priest that you can have access to God. Talk about a set up for power abuse!!!
The church's documented attempts at covering up preist abuse is evil of the highest kind IMO.