I've been riding the toupe since last February it is hands down the best saddle (for me) I've ever ridden. my first ride was about 5 hours with 6,000' of climbing. I could feel some firmness on my sit bones but I wouldn't even call it discomfort. after that, it's been perfect, like a hammock.

from a sizing pov, Specialized thinks I should be a 143mm. I'd been riding a different 130mm saddle before the toupe so that's the size I chose. love it! I put the 143mm on my travel bike and immediately ended up with saddle sores -- it was just too wide for my pelvis.

the ruby is new this year. I haven't tried it yet but will probably demo it later in the spring. it's essentially the same, right, but with gel and a modified cut-out.