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  1. #1
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    Catch a wave...Or the swimming thread

    I'm on track for my 4 swims/week.

    We did 500m w/u then 200m kick. 4x50, 1x 100, 1x200 rest in btwn each then again. I can't remember the rest..

    I'm going to join the local Aussie Masters Swim group now that i can swim & kick. I also want to purchase a book I saw that details all different types of sets but can't remember the title. I'd have to wander to a few book shops.

    C

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    Over on Beginner Triathlete I've challenged myself to swim 16,000m in January. Today I swam the first 2000m:

    1000m in 20:47 (2:04.7/100m)
    400m in 8:25 (2:04.25/100)
    300m in 6:22 (2:07.33/100)
    200m in 4:06 (2:03/100)
    100m in 1:55

    I'm stoked that I did the last 100m in under 2min! Negative splits rock!

    Today's swim marks the first time I've done a workout with most of the swimming done as bilateral breathing: about 2-3 out of every 4 lengths during the first 1000m and the entire second 1000m. I felt faster and smoother stroking this way. I think I've passed the point of no return
    I'd rather be swimming...biking...running...and eating cheesecake...
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  3. #3
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    CC - you are an inspiration!
    All the troubles and all the healing from 2007... the healing that continues this year... and here you are swimming like... well... like a really good swimming thing (I was never that hot on similies! )

    Just remember you love cycling! You have to make room for the bike when you can hop back on it - don't let swimming cheat you!

    (Oh no... I think we're losing CC! CC... come back... we love you and your bike!)

    MD... I have no idea what half your post means (I am not a swimmer or a triathelete) but it sounds like I should be well impressed, so I am) Spesh with 100m in under 2mins - that sounds fast (and a heckuva lot faster than me!!!)


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    "I will try again tomorrow".


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    Well starting next week I'll be swimming with a group Tuesday and Friday mornings.

    I have finally given in to the idea that I can't train for an Ironman and get all my workouts in, just training in the evening and on the weekends.

    So I'm going to buckle down and start getting up at 5:30 AM to swim at 6:00 AM. *Pained look on her face.*

    I keep reminding myself it's all for a good cause... to cross the finish line.

    Otherwise, my swimming is solid. I can't wait to see my times drop some more once I train twice a week.

    Last night I timed the following:

    2x400- Each 400 I completed in 6:30
    2x300- Each 300 I completed in 5:00
    4x100- Each 100 I completed in 1:35/38

    Please keep in mind though that I was a competitive swimmer in High School. Swimming is the ONLY thing I do right.
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in broadside thoroughly used-up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSH View Post
    2x400- Each 400 I completed in 6:30
    2x300- Each 300 I completed in 5:00
    4x100- Each 100 I completed in 1:35/38

    Wow.

    keep going...

    my gods, I really had to try to get a 100 in under 2:00
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  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    Wow.

    keep going...

    my gods, I really had to try to get a 100 in under 2:00
    Well, I wouldn't consider myself a "normal" person in the pool since I have been a competitive swimmer. I have been swimming for a good 20 years... and I made sure to keep up with my skill after I was out of High School.

    Most people swim 100 in 2:00 minutes and if you can get it below that, you are doing great. Especially if you haven't had any personalized coaching.

    I personally think swimming is the hardest of the 3 disciplines to pick up. You can't fake form in swimming. I am amazed at people who can barely swim and who take up doing tri's. That's hard in my book!
    "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather, to skid in broadside thoroughly used-up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming: WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!"

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDHillSlug View Post

    1000m in 20:47 (2:04.7/100m)
    400m in 8:25 (2:04.25/100)
    300m in 6:22 (2:07.33/100)
    200m in 4:06 (2:03/100)
    100m in 1:55
    I can't seem to get myself over to the pool to save my life. Your workout looks good and I just might take it with me....one of these days.

  8. #8
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    I finally made it to the pool. I'm pretty much where I expected to be, happily. After a warmup, I swam 500 yards. The first 100 yards was pretty quick -1:35, but the next 4 were 1:50s. I kicked a 500 and then pulled a 500.

    It's been over two years since I've done any swimming - ultra distance cycling takes a lot of time. I expect the swimming to come back pretty quickly.

    V.
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  9. #9
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    I get to try another wetsuit tomorrow. It's a size bigger than the last one so cross your fingers. It's an Orca Speedsuit - something like this? It's only 2 1/2 years old and in good shape but she wants $250 for it. If it fits, I might offer $200. We'll see.
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  10. #10
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    Help - tomorrow I have to do 5 X 200m, all negative splits. Does that mean each 200m set should be a little faster than the last?
    It is never too late to be what you might have been. ~ George Elliot


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  11. #11
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    Definition of a Negative Split: In a workout application, this usually refers to any workout where the last half of a interval or entire workout is slightly faster than the first.
    KG: Got that off beginner triathlete. Hope it helps. It wouldn't show me the rest of the article (I'm not a Paying Member!).

    I swam yesterday for the second time this week -- that is my goal now -- minimum 2 a week, maybe 3 on a week I don't work much.

    300 wu
    300 drill sets
    4x100 at moderate to fast pace (ok.. for me it's all go faster, or relax!)
    6x50 Fartleks (fast crawl down 25 down, slow recovery breast on way back)
    200 cool down.
    so.... 1500m total?

    I ALWAYS get a headache after being in the pool for more than a few minutes. Don't know if it is just the chlorine, the way I hold my head, the tight cap, or mental .... I really don't enjoy the swimming! Anyone else have this problem?
    Jes
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  12. #12
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    Thanks JVM - I figured that was it. Easier said than done though. I can do it if it's only 2-3 sets but faster for 5 sets in a row? I dunno how to pace myself.

    Dh was picking me up so I didn't have to time to do the last set but here are my times (after 400m warmup). Ah well, lots to learn.

    200m 4:53
    200m 5:00
    200m 5:10
    200m 4:37 - OK this one I really tried going faster and since it was my last set I was able to. It'll take some practice to be able to decrease gradually though.

    I wore my watch this time and hit the timer when I did each set so at least I was able to get a more accurate time. And I don't usually lose count when it's only 200m

    I really like my new Tyr goggles - they don't leak at all - but they seem to fog up after 300-400m and then fog up every 200m after that. They are supposed to be anti-fog. Should I buy some of that spray anyway? Does it work?
    It is never too late to be what you might have been. ~ George Elliot


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  13. #13
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    2350 for me today after work.

    warm up was 4 x 150, skps
    main set 1650 ladder, starting with 275, then 250, 225, etc.
    cool down 100

    I was going to bike after... but I nicked the rear tire when I closed the car after putting the bike in this morning. Of course I didn't discover it until after I swam and was getting ready to take off. It was a hectic morning... I ran this morning too.

    V.
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  14. #14
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    1600m for me today. Was supposed to be 1400m but I felt good and did an extra 200m. Tried out the wetsuit for 100m and LOVED it. It took 15 seconds off my 50m time. Did 1200m steady - my longest swim yet.

    Did the first 750m in 19:00. I'm sure I'll be faster in a wetsuit and after I've had another 3 months of practice.
    It is never too late to be what you might have been. ~ George Elliot


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  15. #15
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    Today I decided to just get in the pool and swim the distance I'll need to cover in my upcoming triathlon. 1500m... so I did it -- swam 4 laps crawl and 1 lap breast (as a rest interval) and kept repeating it. No stopping to actually rest. 31.5 minutes when I was done.

    I found that without doing the intervals, shorter distances with rests, I lose focus and don't have good form. It took a lot to keep myself thinking about it all.

    Overall I'll be happy with that kind of time. I still can take into account there will be no stop and turn arounds in the lake, and also I'll have the Wetsuit, which it sounds like will take some time off if all goes as planned.

    At least I know I can survive 1500m. Now... if I can manage to bike and run after!
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