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  1. #1
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    I don't put my head underwater. I may the be only chickie to do the Danskin Tri with a doggie paddle/left sidestroke/no water in my face technique.

    Someday I want to learn to swim properly, like you guys.
    "If Americans want to live the American Dream, they should go to Denmark." - Richard Wilkinson

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    Knot, serious? And you could do sprint tri distance? I bow down in awe. I can put my head in the water and I still struggled.

    I think I will start going to swimming in Queen Ann on sundays. You are so welcome to join me!

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    Serious. Took me 25 min to do half a mile (3/4 of a kilometer or so) but I did it. Everyone passed me.

    (but I passed them on the bike leg! Yeah! ...but then they passed me again on the run)
    "If Americans want to live the American Dream, they should go to Denmark." - Richard Wilkinson

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    Knot - you are the reason I decided to make triathlon my goal.
    It is never too late to be what you might have been. ~ George Elliot


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    I always tell my patients that I'm the example of what not to do.

    I sucked at the tri, but I had a great fun time! I kicked serious heinie on the bike leg, so at least I know where my strength is!

    Wanna do the same course again. (I've heard they shortened the swim leg, which is FINE with me) Wanna do it on my road bike and walk/jog the run leg and see if my time picks up.

    Tri is the most crazy fun I've had in years. Doing a women's only tri is an absolute blast!

    If anyone has ever considered it, or just thought it might be a distant goal, GO FOR IT! It doesn't matter how well you do, everyone cheers for you! And you end up cheering for everyone!

    It's cosmic love and harmony and "us vs. the course" rather than "me vs. you."

    (and Sally Edwards does every Danskin, and she is one HOT "older" babe! She always is the last person to cross the finish line. If you are second to last, she and a few other elites go with you every step of the way -until the line, where you go first- and you get a huge cheer from the crowd and a basket of goodies)
    Last edited by KnottedYet; 12-31-2007 at 06:01 PM.
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    I did 700 meters on the Subaru tri and did it in like 30 min. It was bad...all the bikes were out of transition before me. At least the ones in my wave, at least.

    And womens tri's are the best I did the Subaru (womens, with the escort finish at the end) and the Kirkland one which was mixed. The Kirkland one, even with a shorter swim segment, wasn't as good as the womens only.

    To go way way way off-topic, the half-marathon I signed up for is womens only. It's a different atmosphere entirely and I prefer it.

    So back to swimming. I'm trying bi-lateral and am doing poorly. I guess it's practice but I am so used to trying harder instead of practicing technique. It's highly frustrating.

    happy new year!!!

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    I am with KSH, I breath every two strokes on the right. I will throw in a left side once in a while to see where I am. I came up through the ranks of AAU, YMCA, High School, and then college as a distance swimmer. I have done two ultra open water swims (the length of a local lake at 18 miles, and Cape Cod to Martha's Vineyard) and now do tris. I have just done sprint and xterra, and the longer the swim the better I do. I am heavy on the swimming, but just can't get comfortable bilateral breathing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teigyr View Post
    I did 700 meters on the Subaru tri and did it in like 30 min. It was bad...all the bikes were out of transition before me. At least the ones in my wave, at least.
    The way I look at it is at least you don't lose time running round like a headless chicken trying to find your bike.......

    I breathe on both sides - every three strokes - our teacher at school drummed into us that that was how we were to swim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teigyr View Post
    Knot, serious? And you could do sprint tri distance? I bow down in awe. I can put my head in the water and I still struggled.

    I think I will start going to swimming in Queen Ann on sundays. You are so welcome to join me!
    Seriously, Ed would be a great (and kind) person to talk to about learning a more conventional stroke...a nice man. Boy, if I lived over that way, I would be joining you guys! That was a neat group when I was there; of course, that was a million years ago!
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

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    And on the breathing...

    It has been awhile since I was doing regular swim workouts, and have never done a competitive open water swim of any kind. I tend to breathe bilaterally ever other stroke (I guess every 3rd?) during workouts, as a general rule, unless I am specifically working on breathing (then less often). Or, unless I'm really getting fatigued, then just same side, because it is much easier for me.

    I agree with Wahine about the roll. I don't know PT stuff, but the roll is so important. I use "off side" breathing as a test of how sloppy or weak my stroke is getting...when breathing to the other side is a lot harder, I know the balance of my stroke has deteriorated.

    That said, when I used to race (and I suspect if I ever do a tri), I will just breathe on my one "good" side, because it still is not second nature to just really push hard and well during bilateral breathing.

    Oh, and when I used to train in the pool, I used to pyramid sets based on number of breaths per length of pool, until it was no breaths, and then finally a length underwater. These did help me get comfortable with breathing less often.
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

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    you scare me. an entire length diving and 16500 ft climbing.
    It's a little secret you didn't know about us women. We're all closet Visigoths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinerabbit View Post
    you scare me. an entire length diving and 16500 ft climbing.

    Oh, AP, thank you! You gave me my first laugh-out-loud for the day. If you met me, you would not be afraid! I'm afraid of everything! And, I haven't done the 16,500' yet!
    "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew, and live through it." ~ Doug Bradbury

 

 

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