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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseGoldberg
    I have all I can do not to stop and talk to people when I see riders without helmets - to encourage them to wear helmets. I'm afraid my comments wouldn't be accepted too well, but maybe I'm just being a chicken.
    Not chicken, it is hard to mention helmet use to a complete stranger. I usually work up the nerve to say something about 20% of the time. Sometimes I'll tell a dude a helmet would look cool on him, or simply say 'Helmet??' to someone as I'm riding by, as in where's your-. Rarely I end up chatting to someone as I'm helping them with a mechanical. That's a great time-talk about a captive audience who's willing to at least pretend to pay attention to what you're saying! I'll also compliment a kid who's wearing one and then ask the parent 'where's yours?'. I try hard to keep my tone as non-judgemental as possible. For a lot of people it's a simple matter of education. For the rest it's Darwin. Too bad it's their kids they're using as bait for natural selection.
    I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.

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    singletrackmind "For the rest it's Darwin. Too bad it's their kids they're using as bait for natural selection. "

    as they say, no brain, no pain.

    What's unfortunate is accidents make the news, parents use that as an argument that the kids should not ride, in most cases the accident would not have been fatal if the rider had a brain lid.

    As others have said it's not just the kids. I took a call at work the other day from a gal in her 80's, not sure how the subject came up but her husband is a bay area rider. She said he never wore a helmet. 80+ years young and he'd be riding still but took a fall and suffered a fatal head injury.

    On the other hand our family friend Bill McGee was wearing a lid when he had just a freak accident. 79, a very experienced rider he was decending, either he touched a wheel in front of him or vice versa, he knew what to do then so did the other rider, they should never have fallen but they did. His buddy got scrapes, Bill died. He was an incredible guy.


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    How very sad about Bill McGee! Sounds like he still had so much to give the world.

    My mother told me one of her good friends (in her 60's) has a very aggressive form of brain cancer that the doctors are tracing back to a childhood head injury. You may be able to get up and walk away when you're young but it's just not worth having a head injury on any level! Wear your helmets, kids!!!

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    I suppose like seatbelts helmets don't guarantee life and freedom from injury but they save more brains more often than not by either lessening the severity of trauma or eliminating it. Sometimes our sport and sanity saver takes a great person no matter what we do. True of everything in life. I am sorry to hear about Bill McGee and I am glad he was able up to the last to do what he enjoyed.
    I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out.

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    Yeah, the thought occurs to me that to go at 70-80+ years old doing the sport you most love, and being able to be active at that level for that long...that's not bad if I can train till then and I plan to be "a lifer".

    It doesn't make it any easier on those left behind but what a way to go, and what a life! If we stay indoors these accidents can't happen but think of all we miss.
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    Okay- I'm going to get my two cents in here.

    Sunday, May 15th, a fellow in my bicycle club crashed on the way down from the summit of Mt Diablo (a very tall mountain here in the SF Bay Area). Although we don't know all of the details, his wife said that if it hadn't been for his helmet he wouldn't have made it. As it is, he was in Intensive Care overnight and may still be in the hospital today.

    We think (no one saw him go down) from seeing the front tire in the truck that brought him down the mountain, that he had a flat on that tire. If this is true, then the accident makes sense. If YOU LOOSE YOUR FRONT TIRE you are toast! Always have a GOOD TIRE on the front wheel of your bike.

    When I ride, I try to remember to check my tires BEFORE descending for this very reason. I have avoided two front flats from this practice. Yes, he could have picked up something on the way down, we don't know. But it doesn't hurt to be on the cautious side. Also when descending it's a good idea to check the inflation of your tires to make sure no leaky tires- I just bounce the front and back tires while standing. (use that time to eat/drink. etc.)

    I mention this in the California section as the women who look at that area of the Forums know where this occurred. I'll keep you all posted over on that thread.

    P.S. Spazz- you are one of the experts here. Anything else to add?
    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Goddess
    ...We think (no one saw him go down) from seeing the front tire in the truck that brought him down the mountain, that he had a flat on that tire. If this is true, then the accident makes sense.
    We should all remember that crashes happen with no reason too. It's quite possible that a flat caused the crash - but I can tell you from experience, there's not always a reason. Emily can tell you how she crashed (ouch!), but I have no idea what caused me to flip my bike and land on my head a year ago. I've been back over that section of road, and there are cracks in the pavement, and it's likely there was stuff on the road. But a reason? Couldn't tell you. I'm not trying to be a fatalist, but sometimes **** just happens. I'm sure I wouldn't be here today if I hadn't been wearing my helmet - just like Bike Goddess's bike club fellow.

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