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  1. #1
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    Tell us exactly which zip base layer tops are in your cart (brand, item name description), then we can advise you better.
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    sigh.....I got my red pepper Ibex shak Hoodie.....and I'll have to send it back.
    It fits me perfectly- but I wanted it to wear over some base layers and it's too snug for that. It's a LARGE, for goodness sake! What is up with that??- I'm just a medium average sized woman and a large fits me perfectly?? Sadly, they do not seem to be available ANYWHERE on the internet in an XL red pepper.
    I have to give up my quest for the red shak.
    Time to rethink again.
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    yeah...those ibex jackets run SMALL!
    sorry! maybe a men's S would do it?
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    wool help please

    Wool. I'm wearing my Rivendell merino crew under a flannel shirt right now...I'm findin it easier on the skin than I did. But....what and how do you layer that wool? Is it right next to your skin? What do you wear for wind and wet over it? If you wear a waterproof shell, does the wool still breathe? HOw many layers ?

    How to dress, is the question, for riding in this wet 35-50 degree climate of the NW in winter?? give me some specific stuff to shop for...
    please.
    oh! and I find Ibex runs a little small...anything good that runs more true to size?
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    Quote Originally Posted by elk View Post
    Wool. I'm wearing my Rivendell merino crew under a flannel shirt right now...I'm findin it easier on the skin than I did. But....what and how do you layer that wool? Is it right next to your skin? What do you wear for wind and wet over it? If you wear a waterproof shell, does the wool still breathe? HOw many layers ?

    How to dress, is the question, for riding in this wet 35-50 degree climate of the NW in winter?? give me some specific stuff to shop for...
    please.
    oh! and I find Ibex runs a little small...anything good that runs more true to size?
    Buy one size up in Ibex if it runs small for you.

    Buy Icebreaker if you can't afford Ibex, but buy Ibex any time you can get it on sale. (check the Ibex Outlet and BackCountry.com and Sierra Trading Post and REI-Outlet)

    Wear a bra under the wool. Ibex is coming out with wool bras this winter, but until then wear a regular bra.

    Treat your wool t-shirt like you would any other t-shirt for layering. Put your favorite warm goodies on over it. It'll be just fine.

    Wool just keeps on breathing, but how much vapor gets out your waterproof shell is entirely up to the SHELL. (not the wool)

    When it's wet and in the cooler temps here in Seattle I like to ride in wool Ibex capris, wool socks, bra, wool longsleeve t-shirt, and wool sweater. I might put a shell on over the sweater if it's *really* raining, but tend not to. I generally wear just my PI visiblity vest cuz I sweat so much.

    I have a wool helmet liner and wool gloves for those really cold days.
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    I like to wear the thin Ibex longsleeve crew "Woolie" shirts as a base layer underneath (over a bra), then a thicker wool shirt over that, like the Ibex Shak or the Ibex Zephyr. Then I'll either wear a wool vest or a screaming yellow windbreaker jacket or vest. On the bottom if it's really cold I'll wear my regular chamois tights and then my wool Ibex tights over them....or vice versa.

    Sometimes i wear an Ibex woolie longsleeve to sleep with my ibex wool tights....yummy!
    I find the new soft merinos are too soft to be itchy, but they have a nice subtle springy texture that feels like i'm getting a skin massage. Cotton doesn't have that effect somehow.

    Always check Ibex's "Outlet" section too, for discounted items, and make sure it's showing "all" outlet items, not just the tops. The link to the outlet alway sseems to start with showing just the tops on sale.
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    My El Fito knickers arrived today! Yay! I'm in between sizes right now and I like my shorts on the snug side, so I ordered down a size. I'm really glad I did becuase they fit great! (Weeeeell, the waist is a bit snug, but it's not squishing internal organs or anything.) Like all Ibex the fit and finish is great. I can't wait to try out these puppies tomorrow. Maybe I'll just wear them around the apartment for a while....
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    Quote Originally Posted by elk View Post
    How to dress, is the question, for riding in this wet 35-50 degree climate of the NW in winter?? give me some specific stuff to shop for... please.
    Here's what's been working for me this winter:

    Morning or late night commute (sub 40 degrees)
    I usually wear about three woolly layers, varying them for the temps.
    1 light wool layer next to skin (Smartwool or Ibex underwear layer)
    1 light wool shirt layer (not much thicker than the baselayer) (e.g. Smartwool Zip-T, Ibex Pico)
    1 warm wool layer (either a sweater like the Ibex Long Trail or a jacket like the Ibex Pingo. I don't actually have the Pingo, I have something from a few years back that's a lot like it.)
    Outer shell varies by weather - for wet the Showers Pass rain jacket in Mango color, or for dry the PI Whisper jacket or vest for high visibility and wind-blocking.

    Bottom (I'm sadly wool-deficient in these areas):
    Bike shorts or knickers (PI, Sugoi, etc. For wool I just got the Ibex Calais shorts and love them. The El Fito's just don't fit my legs at all for some reason.)
    Fleece tights or pants (PI Amfib, Craft storm pants, etc)
    Alternately, I may just combine my PI Sugar knickers with knee-high Smartwool ski socks. Classy!
    If rainy, Craft Rain Pants over shorts + baselayer

    Extremities:
    Thick wool socks (Smartwool snowflake, adrenaline, or ski socks)
    Balaclava (Smartwool, or some off-brand wool-blend thingy I bought from Sierra Trading Post)
    Gore Vulcano Windstopper gloves
    Gore-tex overshoes
    (Helmet has rain cover)

    Midday commute (~50):
    Stash one or more warm wool layers and the balaclava in my panniers to prevent overheating.

    I find it much easier to dress for cold 30's rain than warm 50-60's rain. For warm rain, often just a thin longsleeve wool underwear top under the rain jacket (with pitzips wide open) is enough.

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    Wools socks are the gateway drug.

    I just got myself an Ibex Breakaway jacket from Sierra Trading Post. Merry Christmas to me
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    I got wool for Christmas! Mr. Sheesh bought it on SteepandCheap a couple of weeks ago.

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    I just ordered that Ibex Breakaway jacket, too, when it hit @$53 on STP a couple of days ago. I'm hoping that the "yellow green" color of the description is same or similar to the two yummy Ibex "Tonic" yellow-green pieces I already have.....And if not, I'm sure I'll love it anyway---at that price, it was tooooo tempting to resist!
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    Ibex Woolie Zip Tops on the Way

    I broke down...we have two mortgages, but I had to take advantage of the fact that Ibex had free shipping and NO tax! Here is Arizona, the 8.3% tax is a killer.

    Two mint green woolie zips on there way...had to get one for my partner/stoker! I can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek420 View Post
    Wools socks are the gateway drug.
    OMG Trek that is TOO funny- and too true!!!

    Those jackets you guys are getting so cheap are SO tempting!! That maple red Pingo jacket.....mmmmmmm....
    But I am RESISTING!!!- I just bought myself the Ibex Cortina wool vest AND the Ibex Bregenz jacket this month.....and there is NO way I can, make further excuses to buy yet another jacket right now.
    Besides, when I'm biking down in the 30's I seem to stay just fine and toasty with my merino base layer and 2 Ibex shaks AND a vest, etc. I think I would be just too durned sweaty in a wind proof jacket like the Cirrus material. I like the way the wool sleeves breathe -I can feel cool breeze on my arms, yet I never get cold and my core stays toasty. I've done this same layering while snowshoeing too, and it seems to be the perfect layering for me.
    Of course some of you ladies, like in Seattle, are riding in cold rain- that's different and I can see a weather-proof layer jacket for that. I usually do not go riding in the rain- we don't get rain as often, so it's easier to avoid it here.
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    So...I havn't read backwards yet...but I am assuming you gals got some nicey wooly presents this year???

    I got this: http://www.rei.com/product/757199?vcat=REI_SEARCH
    in black...and I have been wearing it practically 24/7....
    It fits beautifully and is muy soft...

    p.s. to Sandra....I DO have to send that "form fitting" icebreaker top back...now I know!
    this smartwool sweater in XL is sexy!

    pps to all Woolweenies ( why WEENIES??? it takes a tough woman to chose wool!!) Are you ready for the onslaught of SALE!!! emails you are about to recieve??? I'm afraid to look...
    Last edited by elk; 12-26-2007 at 09:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elk View Post
    I got this: http://www.rei.com/product/757199?vcat=REI_SEARCH
    in black...and I have been wearing it practically 24/7....
    It fits beautifully and is muy soft...

    p.s. to Sandra....I DO have to send that "form fitting" icebreaker top back...now I know!
    this smartwool sweater in XL is sexy!

    pps to all Woolweenies ( why WEENIES??? it takes a tough woman to chose wool!!) Are you ready for the onslaught of SALE!!! emails you are about to recieve??? I'm afraid to look...
    Elk,
    That is one good lookin Smartwool sweater!! I don't suppose we could get to see a picture of you in it? It is very elegant.
    I have a Smartwool midweight zip turtleneck in black from last year that I wear a lot- it's very soft and thick. It's a bit form fitting what with those tapered side seams, so when I'm having a "feeling fat day" I wear it underneath as a warm base layer. (....she says while making a serious dent in her 1 lb. box of Xmas hand dipped chocolate covered cherries as we speak)

    I avoid ordering Icebreaker stuff partly due to their main blonde model who is seemingly shaped like a graceful giraffe: http://www.icebreaker.com/site/icebr..._rock_zip.html
    - those clothes look so long and thin they don't seem like any of them could ever possibly fit me! I have ample hips. I have sturdy thighs. But I have a small waist and I'm not overweight, mind you. But that Icebreaker model looks like she is from another planet than the one I came from. ;-D

    I don't remember who it was who suggested starting the "Wool Weenie" thread and naming it that...it was Knot who actually started the thread going, after a bunch of us wool nuts talked about wanting to start a special thread where we could go on and on about wool clothes and compare notes on specific items and alert each other to sales, etc. But I can't remember who specifically suggested the name "wool weenies"- was it Knot? Dianyla? Trek?
    I think the word weenie was meant as in a nerd, like a computer nerd or something. A wool nut/wool weenie, something like that, beats me.

    This is the place to post questions about wool clothes, since all of us wool crazies surely check this thread regularly and together we have pooled a large amount of collective experience and "cardal knowledge" (get it? ha ha).

    I did NOT get any wool for Xmas- but that's OK! It's because my DH is a Wool Weiner too, and so the two of us just get wool for ourselves as we see fit and whenever there is a clear need. We don't buy each other wool because we each know exactly what we want and need in our own wardrobe. For xmas we get each other good books, chocolates, biking goodies, and little things. We have an understanding that works well.
    Last edited by BleeckerSt_Girl; 12-26-2007 at 12:01 PM.
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