oh yeah, I forgot to report. I'm so mad about that $5 rusted bike from the barn that I bought. First off, when I cleaned it, most of the paint washed off. I found out those are supposed to be some really good pedals on it. I got one off fairly easily. The other one I've sprayed with PB Blaster for a week. Even got my strapin' strong son to try it. He was trying to use a wrench and a "cheater bar" and it popped off and him in the cheek. I told him to forget it. That pedal is not going anywhere.