Rivendell vs Waterford

[Veronica]

I put Mavic Ksyriums and 23s on my Rambouillet for doing double centuries. I've since decided I don't like the Ksyriums, they blow me around too much in a cross wind and I'll replace them with what I have on my Legolas eventually. Anyway, to my point, you don't always have to use wider tires.

I'm always amused when people talk about Grant. Riv HQ is maybe 15 miles away from me and we've been on three Rivendell campouts with the staff from Riv. Plus we go through phases when we're in there buying stuff every weekend. Oh, and we've bought 4 Rivendells.

Grant has to be one of the nicest guys I've ever met. All he wants is for more people to ride bikes. Yeah he's opiniated about what makes a good bike. All bike designers must be opiniated, otherwise they wouldn't have a job and all bikes would look the same and be manufactured the same way.

V.

[uforgot]

Well, I went to a Waterford dealer yesterday. I asked about fenders and he said it would just be a matter of changing the brakes??? Then I asked about fit, and he said he would just look at my current bike. No real fit session there. He seems to think that people worry too much about fit, and it didn't matter what kind of bike, as I was curious as to the difference between Waterford rs (road sport) and Waterford st (sport touring). That's when he said if I wanted fenders I would just get cantilever brakes. Frame really didn't matter. Maybe I should also say he had only 2 Waterfords in stock and one Gunnar. Lots of Treks, Bianchis, etc. He did take his time with me and wanted to see my Burley, which I had on the car. I still wasn't impressed. I would think that if I was willing to drop a lot of money on a bike, you would at least fake a fit session? He did mention that a customer drove to the Waterford plant to get a fit. He laughed when he said it.

Closest Riv dealer is 5 hours away, so sometime in the next few months, I may take a trek there. Of course I'll take my bike along and find a route or path to ride while I'm there! Hope it doesn't turn out like the Waterford dealer. Anyone know anything about Harpeth Cycles in Tennessee?

[Veronica]

You could come to California to Riv HQ and get fit. They'll probably even let you borrow a bike and ride it up Mt. Diablo. Come on, you don't have anything planned over Christmas break anyway.

V.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Claudia, that guy doesn't sound like someone I would trust to sell me the RIGHT bike for me. How can someone who sells bikes say that "people worry too much about fit"?!?! Poor fit=pain and even possible injuries. I'd be runnin' away from that guy myself.
And um....you can't put fenders on just any bike by simply changing the brakes- for one thing, you need sufficient fork clearance.

[uforgot]

Claudia, that guy doesn't sound like someone I would trust to sell me the RIGHT bike for me.

No kidding! I tried to slink out of there several times but he wanted to keep talking. I think the Rambouillet is the bike for me, I'm just gonna wait until I can get somewhere to see one in person. I've spent hours researching forums, etc. Maybe I should write Rivendell and tell them I want to see one, so go ahead and push that button to start their production again. I'm not sure of the point, seems that there are a LOT of people who think it's a big mistake. I don't see how the Saluki and Homer whatever replace it. They seem to be more off-road than the Ram. That bike does everything I want, tires are the min and max width I want AND it has lugs. If I'm going to get what I want, I'm going all the way. Meanwhile, my Burley is a terrific road bike, and it will do me until next year for sure! I just can't take it off the pavement.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Claudia, there's a 54cm Rambouillet very similar to mine that's on Ebay right now- auction ending in a few hours:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
It "should" go for over $2000. If you miss that one you might then want to keep an Ebay search notification going for "Rambouillet". You would take either a 52cm or a 54cm Rambouillet. The 54's usually have 700 wheels, and the 52's usually have 26" wheels on them, just for your info.

[uforgot]

Claudia, there's a 54cm Rambouillet very similar to mine that's on Ebay right now- auction ending in a few hours:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123
It "should" go for over $2000. If you miss that one you might then want to keep an Ebay search notification going for "Rambouillet". You would take either a 52cm or a 54cm Rambouillet. The 54's usually have 700 wheels, and the 52's usually have 26" wheels on them, just for your info.

Lisa, I'm the one who drove it up to $1700! I'm hesitating because it has 3,000 miles on it. I have a search going on for one, that's how I found this one. If it has minimal scratches and 3,000 miles do you still think it's worth $2000?

[uforgot]

You could come to California to Riv HQ and get fit. They'll probably even let you borrow a bike and ride it up Mt. Diablo. Come on, you don't have anything planned over Christmas break anyway.

V.

After your 50th birthday, there is a lovely little medical test most doctors want you to take. THAT'S what I have planned over Christmas break. So do you believe me when I say I'd rather come to California?

[sandra]

After your 50th birthday, there is a lovely little medical test most doctors want you to take. THAT'S what I have planned over Christmas break. So do you believe me when I say I'd rather come to California?

oh my gosh. I'm getting one too at that time. Man, I dread it. Want to come go do that at the same time? I'll take you to my two great bike shops.

[uforgot]

oh my gosh. I'm getting one too at that time. Man, I dread it. Want to come go do that at the same time? I'll take you to my two great bike shops.

Before or after? Then if it's after we can have some fried green tomatoes, before and we can toast each other with that milky white substance everyone says is so awful.

[sandra]

We are not going to drink that stuff. They have pills now. We are going to demand pills!