I'm not trying to figure out size just yet. I'm just trying to get some idea what kinds of bikes are out there that will fit my needs. Actually, when I did the Rivendell "fit" system, I was at the top end of a 54. (32+ inseam) There is a shop in Nashville that carries the Rambouillets, so I would certainly go there first to make sure since I've really not put a cap on price yet, but it's a long drive so I want to have my ducks in a row first. I rarely drive, only if I leave town, and no one would blink if I spent the amount a Rivendell cost on a vehicle! I agree about the Rambouillet. All of the others Rivendell offers have a minimum suggested tire width of 30mm and the Rambouillet is 27mm which appeals to me. I've read where some think the Rivendells are overpriced for what you get, and that we are essentially "buying" Grant Peterson, but then again, there seems to be a Grant following and those who don't care at all for him. He seems to bring on the controversy, but I'm buying a bike, not him, so I really appreciate what Veronica said. You can adapt the Rambouillet to whatever you want. The Bleriot and the Saluki seem to be more off road. I have several bikes right now, among them a road bike that has more of a racing geometry and a commuter/katy trail bike and it would be nice to get one that does it all (except single track of course!) I've noticed that the Rivendells tend to hold their value well when reselling also. Something else I want. I had a Jamis which was in almost new condition and pretty much couldn't give it away! I also don't mind waiting until the Rambouillet quits sleeping as I plan on making this my LAST bike, (seems contradictory to my resale rule) and I want the best for my needs and money. I'm sort of tired of always economizing in my life.

Whew, long post. I appreciate all of the input!