Realty check - body image

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Zen,
You better behave yerself, Missy!
Don't make me mention butter.





Knot,
That's scary stuff!!
(((hoping Kit doesn't start posting bloody eyeball pix again....)))

[Kano]

... get a fitting and try out as many ...

I thought this thread was about breasts?

Karen in Boise

[sundial]

What about a fanny lift? You know, having it high and tight? Zen, are you listening to me?

[Zen]

OMG- I hate that abbreviation but OMG you gotta see this

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

OMG- I hate that abbreviation but OMG you gotta see this

(keeping my mouth shut)

[sundial]

Holy moly!! I thought the girlie parts trimming was bad enough!

[teigyr]

Heh. I looked that up and as I was scrolling through the slides, one of our managers (a friend of mine from way back when) walked behind me. His comment was "where do you FIND these things?"

I wanted to blame zen Instead, I took the fall for her.

[sgtiger]

I always did wonder how women sat in those bustle dresses. Never imagined that they were retractable! Cool! Thanks, Zen.

Too bad there's not a magic pill for me to gain a few inches in my legs. <sigh> Oh, well... my bike wouldn't fit than. Never mind!

[KSH]

An interesting viewpoint. You make it sound as though women who are not in favor of breast augmentation operations are full of hatred towards women who are. Stating one's own opinion that differs from another's is not "abuse", it's just a basic right of expression.
What *is* accurate is that each woman has their OWN opinions on the subject, and when groups of them talk about the subject in an open discussion forum, then one can expect to hear various opinions, both pro and con. Discussions involve a back and forth exchange of ideas and opinions. If one doesn't want to hear any opposing views, then one shouldn't be reading a discussion about it. As far as I've seen, the women in this discussion were pretty much just stating their own viewpoints, not attacking anyone here.
No need to tell anyone to "screw off". I think Annie also understands this concept of being able to discuss varied opinions without personal attacks.

So? Why would anyone feel it's necessary to try to change their mind? One could say the very same thing about people who are passionately FOR BA's.

Lisa, I probably didn't word my response just right.

I would say that there are probably 3 types out there (applies to men as well as women really):
1) Boob jobs are fine in their book. They have no issue getting one themselves (or their SO) and are fine with them.
2) Boob jobs are fine in their book, but they wouldn't want one for themselves or their SO.
3) Boob jobs are NEVER OK in their book. No matter if a women needed them (some women do have tubular breasts, etc. Getting a boob job is a huge mental lift for them. Or what about breast cancer survivors?)... and they will stand on the top of the "mountain" to let women with boob jobs how horrible they are for getting one and how agains boob jobs they are.

I'm all for listening to opposing views. I don't think anyone in this thread has been rude or judgemental. Not at all.

But in reference to the lady that posted... you do run into the ones who are judgemental and you have to be prepared to face that if you tell people.

I know I was cornered in a ladies restroom at a club for about 45 minutes by a lady who had to tell me how horrible getting a boob job was. I was very polite and listened to her point of view and recognized why she didn't agree with it and respected her opinion. Trust me, I was more than kind to this lady. But that's a prime example of what you sometimes have to face.

I would never expect to change someone's mind. If you are against it, that's the way it is. I guess I would just expect for someone to respect my decision for my life and stop judging me for my decisions. But, sometimes, that's not the case. Not in this thread, but generally speaking.

So trust me... I'm not upset or hurt and I don't think anyone here has been mean. I was just pointing out that sometimes you do have to "face" those people who will make judgements and tell you how horrible you are for making your choices.

[KSH]

I have to say I am intrigued by this thread, skunks nonwithstanding. I was one of the "anti" people merely, I guess, due to my own feelings about how women shouldn't have to modify themselves due to society, etc.

What I'm impressed with are the people who are obviously in shape and are extraordinarily strong women who choose to do this. This is cool. I guess I've witnessed the non-athletic "Barbie" types who rely on surgery to do what they don't want to work for. I guess if it's something you want to do (instead of an attempt to make someone like you) it's a positive thing.

I have no desire to get it done but the ultra-painful sounding tummy tuck would be something I'd be interested in. Though I wonder if implants help in swimming? Are they bouyant? Might get me to thinking .....

Well, I think with everything... why women get boob jobs can vary.

Yes I think there are the ones out there who do it to "get men" or they are just all about relying on their looks to get by in life.

I would encourage you to view some before and after pictures though... as you will see that there are women out there with deformed breasts. One size is an A cup the other a D cup... tubular breasts, etc. I am sure these women get a BA so they can feel comfortable undressing in front of their partner.

I can't say my choice was based on something that dramatic.... I just like boobs and I didn't have any. I went from a perky B to a saggy A when I lost some body fat through diet and exercise. After that I wasn't happy with the size or shape. And I'm a women who is all hips/thighs/butt. I had this thin torso, no boobs but a lot of booty. I just wanted to even it all out.

Honestly, most people who have met me in person, and who I tell later about my BA... are shocked I have one. I don't stand out... mine are very natural looking and fit my body size. I don't flaunt my chest... I don't use it to get anything. I dress in respectable clothing and I make sure to cover up at work.

I'm a very strong and confident woman who got it done for... me. I didn't do it for anyone else.

As for swimming... eh... no help there.

[stacie]

[QUOTE=KSH;250607]
But in reference to the lady that posted... you do run into the ones who are judgemental and you have to be prepared to face that if you tell people.

I know I was cornered in a ladies restroom at a club for about 45 minutes by a lady who had to tell me how horrible getting a boob job was. I was very polite and listened to her point of view and recognized why she didn't agree with it and respected her opinion. Trust me, I was more than kind to this lady. But that's a prime example of what you sometimes have to face.



I find people who force their opinions on others much more obnoxious than women with big boobs real or fake.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I know I was cornered in a ladies restroom at a club for about 45 minutes by a lady who had to tell me how horrible getting a boob job was. I was very polite and listened to her point of view and recognized why she didn't agree with it and respected her opinion. Trust me, I was more than kind to this lady. But that's a prime example of what you sometimes have to face.

Yikes, you probably should have just excused yourself after 5 minutes!

But hey, I hear what you are saying.

I think there are more than the 3 types you mention though. I know I don't fit neatly into any of the 3 "types".

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I find people who force their opinions on others much more obnoxious than women with big boobs real or fake.

I agree. What's more, I also think that women who force their boobs on others can be just as obnoxious as women with big mouths and opinions real or fake.

(just kidding!!)

[teigyr]

KSH, thank you for sharing that.

I guess we're all guilty of having proconceived notions sometimes and it's always the obnoxious people who are out there talking about what they had done. (Think Pamela Anderson) I've long been against people "beautifying" themselves to fit into some role but then again I know that's pretty hypocritical because we all do things that make us feel good. What gets to me about surgeries, especially for those who do them for someone else instead of themselves, is it's risky. I've known men who insist their womenfolk do these things (really, I have and it's horrible!) and it appalls me. Then again we should have the freedom to do what we want with our bodies.

I find a lot of TE people are role models. I don't see any of you as going around flashing your boobs (unless there's good reason ) and scheming about your next surgery. Yeah, I've seen surgery addicts also. All/most of you are in incredible shape and take care of yourselves.

It is sad that the procedure is stereotyped in such a negative way but I think it's usually because we only hear/see negativity.

[michelem]

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