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RedRhodie,
Thanks, and yes, I am currently working with Stedman's. The place is fantastic. I had gone into another LBS in Newport, asked about steel, and was told "no one does steel anymore". Obviously not the place for me. Stedman's actually has a Waterford frame that's a year old which he is going to build up for me to see if I like it, and if it is the right size. If it's not, I'm planning on checking into the Gunnar sport. I would love to test ride one!
I have checked the Terry site, and will continue to do so. You can't have too many bikes, can you?Thanks so much for the link to circle a - I'm definitely checking them out as well.
Lisa
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Almost sounds like the bike you test rode was not put together properly....
I've ridden just about every type of frame there is to be had - except scandium. My impressions (and these are only from MY bikes - geometry can have loads to do with how a bike feels. I know a racer who had to give up her Ti bike because it was too harsh)
My old steel sport tourer and the aluminum/carbon bike that replaced it didn't acutally feel much different road feel wise, about the same amount of road buzz and pothole dampening. The steel bike was larger and had a longer wheel base so it tended to feel more stable and was a better stopper than any other bike I've owned, but it also didn't really fit and that was a pretty big issue.
All aluminum cross bike. Even with wide low pressure tires this one is pretty harsh, but one would expect that from an all aluminum bike. I didn't get it to ride long distances so I'm not worried about that. Super stable feeling for such a tiny bike.
My carbon racing bike is a dream. Its light, stiff, responsive, but doesn't jar me to bits. Very little road buzz unless I'm on some pretty harsh chip seal. I definitely noticed that this bike was livelier when I switched to it from the aluminum/carbon one. I'd never won a sprint before and the first week I rode this one I did. (I'd been second in a bunch of them......)
Ti rain/communter bike. Even smoother on the road than the carbon bike, but not quite as responsive. I wouldn't call it mushy, not by a long shot, but it just isn't as quick to accelerate. That may be from having a heavier wheel set on it. After I put the carbon seatpost on it I feel almost zero road buzz, which I like.
Now, I've never ridden a bike that I'd call wooden or dead feeling, so I'm not entirely sure what most people mean by that. All my bikes I still certainly can feel the road underneath of me, some of them just soak up the bumps better and some vibrate more than others, which I can really live without. I suppose it must be kind of like riding in a really quite luxury car with really good shocks?? I think I've driven a car like that once - a little disconcerting to not feel the road very much - more like floating just a touch above, but none of my bikes gives me that feeling.
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I second all that Edan said. I went from an all aluminum to aluminum with carbron fork to all carbon. I cannot see myself going back to an aluminum bike. My carbon bike is so forgiving on rough roads, extremely responsive which I did not know much about until I rode the bike. I would also consider it a dream to ride.
Just my 2 cents added.
~ JoAnn
Mama Beane, I'll make sure to check out the Waterford next time I'm in Stedman's. It's my home away from home. If you see a little red haired rat pestering everyone in there, that's me!
It is hard to find a bike shop in NYC that everyone likes - maybe it's just that we new yorkers are fussy.
It is odd, because everyone I know loves the Jack Rabbit runnning store - the people are so knowlegeable, great and helpful. I wonder if there is some reason that there can't be a bike store as pleasant to go to.
Lisa
Big thumbs-up for Waterford bikes!
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