Trek, thank you I never want to intrude and I'm a pretty much "live and let live" person unless I'm behind a slow person on the freeway. My judgments are by actions (ie animal abusers, etc) rather than lifestyle. Not to take this OT but your points are good and hopefully they feel the same way.

Knot, will PM you links Have a few options but the one pool is probably pretty close to you. Also wouldn't mind doing some OW swims.

And this isn't Masters related but yesterday I did a small OW swim. I remember when I had trouble going 20 strokes in the pool without resting. In OW I went up to 55, I counted on my last length! I am so far from perfect but I am getting better. I could have done more, also, but it was my last length and I didn't want to push it.