Oh my gosh, I didn't know that PI's were geared towards beginners. I just bought my first pair at 80.00 on sale. Liked the material, but not the leg grippers, and liked the idea of a one piece chamois vs. the sewn seam between the chamois and the piece that goes on the inner thigh. I can say that the seamless design didn't make one ounce of difference on the irritation that I get at that spot. Dar, hope you can get your problem taken care of soon. Go back for a readjusment or get a "second oppinion"!