Dar - I agree with Deb W on tipping the saddle down a bit if you are going to leave your seatpost and handlebars at that height. Also, try a thinner chamois for the very reason Lisa mentioned. It made all the diff with me. No more sore bits. Also, PI isn't exactly the best short on the market, they just price them that way. They actually gear their market towards beginners. Sugoi and others are infinitely better than the PI's. Usually, once you try another brand, you realize what you are missing. Everyone sells PI's though so they are just easier to find. I've pretty much abandoned mine and may just give them away soon. Try a tri chamois and see if you like it. Good luck!