2008 Treks

[silver]

Silver, DON"T LOOK!

I have to block this website

Not lusting after a bike right now, so you're safe there. (although those bikes are purdy) But the wheel sites.........there could be trouble there.

Can I get these? Please? They cost less than a new bike

http://www.cambriabike.com/shopexd.a...+COMP+WHEELSET

[BabyBlueNTulsa]

That's one sweet ride alright... One thing, I've seen the new Madone shape up close - it reminds me a LOT of my Giant OCR-C. I thought Trek was 'on the edge' with design? Aren't they the designer of those fancy Lance TT bikes?

Oh well, anyway... I love the looks of this bike! (familiarity, maybe?) hee

Love the paint!

[VeloVT]

Weird that none of the WSD bikes -- not even the top of the line Madone 6.5 -- have a standard double (53/39) as an option. Gotta think there are some girls out there that could use WSD sizing/geo but between terrain and fitness might not want a triple or compact.

They are pretty though!

EDIT: oh, looks like even on the non-WSD Madones you now have to go up to the "pro" level (which IS more expensive) to get a standard double (what? weird). Apparently they figure the average customer spending over $3000 on a carbon race bike is a weekend warrior (which may not be so far from the truth). Or maybe they're just hoping they'll be able to sucker people into buying more bike than they wanted so that they can get the gearing they want...

The LBS that sells Treks was not very flexible about swapping out parts either (the other local shop, which tends to focus more on higher end bikes than the shop that carries Trek, was ironically very into customizing and seemed like they'd make good deals on swapping parts).

BTW I'm not being snobby about triples/compacts, I have triples on both of my bikes, I just think that if you're spending that much on a **race bike** you should be offered the option of standard gearing, without having to spend more for it. And it's not even an option on the wsd bikes -- there's no "PRO WSD" line -- who are they to assume that all of the women for whom the non-wsd Madone is not a good fit are not strong enough to push big gears?

[Beane]

I've been disappointed in the changes Trek has been making to their WSD line lately.. it seems like while other companies are increasing the amount of stuff they design for women, Trek is cutting back. They're not spec'ing the bikes as well... and having to spend over $3000 to get OCLV rather than TCT is lame.

I must note that these comments (about Trek's weaker spec'ing and oclv prices are equally applicable to the men's bikes).

[Bad JuJu]

and having to spend over $3000 to get OCLV rather than TCT is lame.

Here's something I've been curious about. What IS the diff between OCLV and TCT? They're both carbon, aren't they?

[segolene]

I tested this one ( I am lucky enough to fit well their regular line)

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...e/madone65pro/

LOOOVED IT, way better than the previous Madones, more stable, more responsive (yeah, the guys in my LBS totally knew what they were doing to me.....actually, I think they did it on purpose!!!)! I am in a big trouble. I bought a great Specialized last year, there is no way I can justify this wayyy too expensive bike....unles I convince my DH to buy himself another bike
...and forget about our trip to Africa next year!!!


Seg

[VeloVT]

Here's something I've been curious about. What IS the diff between OCLV and TCT? They're both carbon, aren't they?

I don't know what the technical differences are (more/less fibers per square inch? different resin compounds?). But I've test ridden both, and they really do feel quite different. OCLV is much livelier.

[Beane]

Short answer:
TCT is heavier and less stiff. Also, TCT is made in Taiwan, whereas OCLV is made right here in Wisconsin.


here's trek's answer to your question:
http://www.trekbikes.com/faq/questio...?questionid=20

[SR500]

I've been looking at a couple closeout Madones, but DH stopped by the LBS today, and the guys gave him a killer price on a '08 5.1 WSD. So I think I'm going to go that way, but it won't be here until late Sept. The larger problem is what size? I settled in on a '07 5.2 WSD, as rode one last year for a week, now the new bikes come in 50 and 52 with new geometry. Right now I'm leaning toward the 52 and maybe using a shorter stem, it's top tube is only 6 mm longer then the 51. Problem is know one has any to test ride, and no one seem to know much about the WSD's.

Seg, what size did you ride (compared to your regular size)?

Any thoughts?

Thanks