The "men's" Selle Italias are narrower in the middle than any Specialized IMO. Maybe they'll do better with the Ruby. The problem I saw with the Toupe which has kept me from trying it is that while it's supposed to break in well and isn't too squishy or heavy, the widest part of the sides in the middle are hard, whereas the other Specialized saddles are soft. So at least when I'm getting rubbed by my Jett where it's too wide, it's a softer surface. Then again, I am starting to take the lettering off the rails in a couple parts too where they stick out underneath!