Holstein 100 2007

[jobob]

TrekHawk congratulating jobob:

Or, telling me to live long and prosper.

[maillotpois]

Live long and prosper!!!

Great ride reports and rides, everyone! And great pictures!

Wow, congrats to PA Badger and friends on your first century. Huge!!! That's not an easy first century. Huge thumbs up!!

I saw Kim briefly at the start. We got a later start than I wanted, leaving at 7:30. But I think we must have left later than everyone who did the metric, because the roads were deserted, and we were the only folks back at the end. Super weird. We were also the first people to the Walker SAG stop and oh boy were those people desperate to have someone stop and take advantage of their facilities. But we just didn't need a SAG at that point. I needed a therapist.

I was very glad we opted for the metric. The butt lasted about 40 miles before it became horrible. (I've had a nasty case of ischeal bursitis.) I just couldn't get comfortable. So strange. But DH and I had a fun ride together. It always pushes me, but it was a good tune up for the ride we'll do in November. Fast and flat. We had a nice remora hook up with us for basically the entire ride. Wayne from Lodi. You can be a remora if you try to take a pull every once in a while (which he did) and if you're gracious and recognize you're hanging on (which he was).

Amazing baklava at the end. The support for the whole ride was fantastic. Once of the main reasons that is my favorite organized ride in this area.

And 7000 feet is just about what I got from doing the full route in 2005, so I think all your estimates of 7000 feet are right on.

[DrBadger]

Jo, where did your MB post go????? So confused.....

Well, I just went to Motion Based, and the post that had the elevation at 11,000 feet was what it got from my Edge ????? it was really wierd.. I checked it to make sure that it wasn't trying to apply any corrections etc, and it wasn't. Said that it was using GPS and altimeter (ie. not their gravity correction). The thing that is even wierder is that there were 2 or 3 other reports with the full century and the elevations differed by over 2000 ft.. The same thing is true for the people who posted for the metric.

The values I posted in my earlier report were what my Edge gave me in Traning Center, so just what it pulled off my device. Motion Based screwed it up big time. I then tried to import the GPX file into both bikely and SportsTracks to see what they gave me. Bikely gave me about 5500 ft (just what the ride description said, but apparently it is limited to 100 elevation points, so for a 100 mile ride you are going to totally underestimate the true elevation gain) Then SportsTracks gave me 56,000 ft there was OBVIOUSLY an error somewhere in the import I am guessing!

All this makes it really hard to know what to believe, even with what is supposed to be a good barametric altimeter. For now I am going to go with what Training Center gives me right off of the edge, but wierd.

[jobob]

Hee hee, bus-ted

I had posted that someone posted their stats to MotionBased for the century that showed an elevation gain of about 11,800 ft and I ended the post with something like "um ... I don't think so "

and then I looked at the stats more carefully and thought "gee that person took about the same time we did ..."

and then I scrolled down some more and realized "holy **** that was Ellen!"

So I quickly deleted the post and was working on a different version but Dr. Badger was too quick on the draw.

[DrBadger]

Hee hee, bus-ted

I had posted that someone posted their stats to MotionBased for the century that showed an elevation gain of about 11,800 ft and I ended the post with something like "um ... I don't think so "

and then I looked at the stats more carefully and thought "gee that person took about the same time we did ..."

and then I scrolled down some more and realized "holy **** that was Ellen!"

So I quickly deleted the post and was working on a different version but Dr. Badger was too quick on the draw.

OK, way too funny! I am sitting here laughing my a$$ off with this one At lease I am quick with something!

"um ... I don't think so "

That was exactly what I thought when I saw what Motion Based did to my data when I uploaded it. More than anything I like the maps that it creates using Google Maps, and you can even import it into Google Earth.. pretty cool, but I really don't trust their algorithms... I mean come on, how hard is it!

[jobob]

.. pretty cool, but I really don't trust their algorithms... I mean come on, how hard is it!

Yeah, it's not rocket science ! *

(* I was riding with a bunch of geologists and it was a joke we all shared. The biochemist and the rock scientists. Hey, it was a long day. )

... hmm, on second thought, maybe it is ... ?

[DrBadger]

Yeah, it's not rocket science ! *

(* I was riding with a bunch of geologists and it was a joke we all shared. The biochemist and the rock scientists. Hey, it was a long day. )

... hmm, on second thought, maybe it is ... ?

He he... yah, I guess GPS is rocket science

This rock scientist actually dated a rocket scientist for a while...it was always fun telling people that I was dating a rocket scientist

There were a number of times yesterday when we were all standing around looking at the map that had me thinking "how many advanced degrees does it take..." Between the 4 of us I believe that there were 3 PhDs (or almost PhDs) and at least 3 masters degrees. You'd think that we would be able to figure out how not to take a wrong turn

[jobob]

The thing that is even wierder is that there were 2 or 3 other reports with the full century and the elevations differed by over 2000 ft. The same thing is true for the people who posted for the metric.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Sad but true, elevation gain readings from different computers vary a great deal.

For my own record keeping & gauging my progress, I go by my own computer, knowing that it generally gives elevation gain readings on the low end of the range when compared to the elev gain readings for the same ride from others' computers.

But I figure it's all relative anyhow.