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    From my undestanding Rasmussen has denied everything - he denies being in Italy, and he denies all claims made against him. Right now all these accusations are based on comments made by a reporter who alleges he saw Rasmussen training in Italy. Nothing more.

    Rasmussen's team withdrew him from competition in order to avoid the entire team being withdraw.

    I am convnced it will all be sorten out but for now, if there is no truth to the allegations how sad for Rasmussen. Sadly these guys are all guilty until proven innocent. Seems backwards to me.

    And yes my passport does not have stamps from places I've been. I had to forth the border authorities to stamp it because I wanted to have the stamps. And right now travel between the USA and Mexico does not require a passport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcipam View Post
    From my undestanding Rasmussen has denied everything - he denies being in Italy, and he denies all claims made against him. Right now all these accusations are based on comments made by a reporter who alleges he saw Rasmussen training in Italy. Nothing more.
    Unless he lives like a monk, it should be pretty easy for him to demonstrate that he was in a country or another. Like another poster mentioned earlier, there would be credit card records, and probably cell phone calls records too. Of course if he seriously had planned that he could have had someone with his phone and cards in any country...

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    bcipam... you have probably caught up with this, but when his manager asked if he had been in Italy, Rasmussen 'fessed up and that is why he was fired on the spot - because he lied.

    He lied to his management and to his team - and lying to his team is a HUGE break in trust. Foolish, foolish boy


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadRaven View Post
    bcipam... you have probably caught up with this, but when his manager asked if he had been in Italy, Rasmussen 'fessed up and that is why he was fired on the spot - because he lied.

    He lied to his management and to his team - and lying to his team is a HUGE break in trust. Foolish, foolish boy
    Actually that's the version of the story I had until I did research on more recent articles, and turns out Rasmussen IS denying having been in Italy (although the team said he confessed being in there)... (or so is he reported by the French Wikipedia to have declared to the Danish newspapers)...
    Last edited by Grog; 07-29-2007 at 01:11 PM.

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    I do think there should be passport stamps (my passport has them), but if not, there should be airline tickets (which if discarded I am sure the airline could corroborate were purchased, etc.). That is why it is clear he is lying.

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    I think Rabobank's decision to hold him to a higher standard (that is, truthfulness) and not let athletics get reduced to mere medical testing will help the sport by setting a standard for folks who "push the envelope".

    I'm one who believes that Integrity is Right and that in the long run, truth will always prevail. I wish everyone would hold themselves to a standard of avoiding even the appearance of impropriety!
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    I suppose if one is in competition, one may want to keep training strategies secret. Is the UCI known for keeping the "whereabouts" information confidential?

    I read he was seen riding in the Dolomites (Passo di San Pellegrino, 1910 meters). According to Tour de France for Dummies this would be considered a "beyond category" climb ... great training for le Tour perhaps?

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport...d=networkfront

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolomites

    He said he failed no doping tests, but if he didn't show up for a random test, is it like not showing up for a "pop-quiz" in school? Did he not have a cell phone? Too bad, if he is actually the best athlete and did not dope, to lose his jersey this way.
    Last edited by Delta7; 07-29-2007 at 08:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Silver View Post
    I think Rabobank's decision to hold him to a higher standard (that is, truthfulness) and not let athletics get reduced to mere medical testing will help the sport by setting a standard for folks who "push the envelope".

    I'm one who believes that Integrity is Right and that in the long run, truth will always prevail. I wish everyone would hold themselves to a standard of avoiding even the appearance of impropriety!
    And in case you missed it. Rabobank is in the business of.....
    Banking! (we , we have Rabobanks in CA)
    So I could see where have having a "artful dodger" advertising(which is what the business of bike racing is about) for your establishment would be a bit galling (Actually, I thought I read that the decision came from the Board of Rabobank instead of the cycling team) And that I think is going to be trend in pro racing, that the Corps writing the check are going to keep the "sporting" folks on a tighter leash to avoid potential embarrassment. T-mobile did this, although did they get bit by Patrik "Stinkypants"

 

 

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