The Chicken gets plucked!

**Fredwina** · 07-25-2007, 01:56 PM

That's a lot better, PedalWench!

I think El Pollo wasn't Amigos with anyone on Rabo.

**slinkedog** · 07-25-2007, 02:04 PM

WTF! I thought this was a totally chaotic Tour without one team in control, Rabobank gets control and then this! Wow! What an incredible shame.

**bikerchick68** · 07-25-2007, 02:06 PM

whoa! I know I shouldn't be surprised... but I am

at least they seem to not just be "slapping their wrists" as punishment anymore... still a bummer tho.

**onimity** · 07-25-2007, 02:15 PM

Maybe they should just forget the yellow jersey and start competing for a tie-dyed jersey...

**slinkedog** · 07-25-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by onimity

Maybe they should just forget the yellow jersey and start competing for a tie-dyed jersey...

LOL! I think I MUST find a tie-dyed jersey now. I'm on an official quest!

**suzbyrd** · 07-25-2007, 02:24 PM

I'd be lying if I said I was pulling for Rasmussen. I'm pulling hard for the Discovery team. But dang, Ras had a great ride today. I wish I had the discipline those boys have to train and eat correctly and keep so little body fat that they are called the "chicken". I think it is terrible that the tests keep getting leaked to the press before there is confirmation. You'd have to be pretty dumb to dope and drug these days. I've said all along that Ras was cheating. If the Tour meant that much to him and he was clean, he'd make damn sure he was where he was supposed to be for the tests. I'm just praying someone doesn't make something up about Discovery. We've got to believe someone is CLEAN.

**ehirsch83** · 07-25-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by onimity

Maybe they should just forget the yellow jersey and start competing for a tie-dyed jersey...

haha, if they bring in a tie-dyed jersey you might get a bunch of older dope smoking fixie riding men entering the tour, might be a little slower!
j/k

But in all reality all of this is sad and you know that they wouldn't just pull him for missing the tests, because otherwise he would have never started to race. They must have a feeling that he would be testing positive after his great ability to keep the yellow jersey....... but that is just my opinion

**Eden** · 07-25-2007, 02:36 PM

I dunno - I can understand balking at having ones every move charted.... its not that he had a list of time that he had to show up for controls and he missed them. Riders are required to present the doping control agency with an agenda of everywhere that they plan to be and when in detail, ahead of time, so that if the bloodsuckers decided to drop in unannonced they know where to find you..... I would certainly have a hard time living like that, I kind of like being able to be spontaneous....
What's next. Locked in their hotel rooms each night, all training camps to be held in North Korea, since they have plenty of experience running prison camps and providing government minders.
I'm afraid I am more on the side of the riders at this point. Sure they catch up some real cheats, but it seems now adays you can't win a race without automatically being accused of doping - maybe it should be a slow race instead. The person who can cross the line last wins - but if you put a foot on the ground you're disqualified.... We could put all 21 days into doing one stage.

**spazzdog** · 07-25-2007, 02:47 PM

Another exasperating giggle-fest is Morini (?) of Cofidis...

He took part in the "we riders are so tired of the doping" start delay this morning... and was booted at the end of the day for a positive A sample from the other day.

Now that's nervy...

I've been wondering if Ras would go. I think a positive test is lurking out there and his team may be acting before the leak hits.

Drugs, sex, rock & roll... cycling, the new Woodstock.

spazz

p.s. there's some comment by Vino about his positive for doping being a mistake because "he had so much blood in his thighs". Do these guys not know basic biology... 8 (oops, or is it 9) pints of blood in the human body. Except in cycling where they have extra (in little see-through bags in the luggage).

**Grog** · 07-25-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by spazzdog

Drugs, sex, rock & roll... cycling, the new Woodstock.

Yeah, without the sex and rock'n roll!

I feel so sorry for these guys. I'm surprised we don't hear of cyclists-suicides more often.

**Eden** · 07-25-2007, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by spazzdog

p.s. there's some comment by Vino about his positive for doping being a mistake because "he had so much blood in his thighs". Do these guys not know basic biology... 8 (oops, or is it 9) pints of blood in the human body. Except in cycling where they have extra (in little see-through bags in the luggage).

godness knows how badly this quote was mangled in its translation from Kazhak though.....
I've heard that some think the test shows new/vs old red blood cells and he was trying to make the point that he should have a lot of new cells since he lost a lot of blood from his injuries..., but the test for homologous blood doping actually does test for your cells v/s someone elses. The only way you can truely different types of red blood cells with totally different antigens is to be a true chimera, and that's not something that would only show in one test - ask Tyler how poor an argument that one is....

**Grog** · 07-25-2007, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by ehirsch83

haha, if they bring in a tie-dyed jersey you might get a bunch of older dope smoking fixie riding men entering the tour, might be a little slower!
j/k

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