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    Quote Originally Posted by zencentury View Post
    Shouldn't this post have come with a "spoiler alert"?
    It's been reported at CNN and in cyling news. Why would anyone want to maintain suspense at finding this out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalidurga View Post
    It's been reported at CNN and in cyling news. Why would anyone want to maintain suspense at finding this out?
    Some of us (well, one for sure) were doing other stuff today, I only had one chance to use a computer.

    It is unimaginable how they can do this day after day. They did it in 1903 without doping, if a rider has any moral standards and a true love of the sport for sports sake they wouldn't do it. I just don't get it, they're not exactly making pro football salaries.
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    I'm with Kalidurga - this is hardly a "spoiler".

    A debacle, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zencentury View Post
    Shouldn't this post have come with a "spoiler alert"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kalidurga View Post
    It's been reported at CNN and in cyling news. Why would anyone want to maintain suspense at finding this out?
    I think ZC was really more lamenting the fact that she'd rather not have found out about this. As all the rest of us probably feel.
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    It is sad to see. I was a bit disappointed in Vino, but not shocked.

    I also don't believe it could be a simple mix up with same type blood. There are all kinds of anitbodies in blood that have to be checked for compatability, not just the blood type and Rh pos/neg. It would be astounding to me that they accidently mixed up the blood and it just so happened that both riders affected had no antibodies or reaction to the blood.

    I would like to see a doping free tour but like others have said the money and fame make such a tempting offer. Not to mention, the fans who have a huge desire to see their hero be super human.

    I am still a cycling fan and will continue to watch. If nothing else, Rasmussen and Contador have added a thrill.
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    who?
    where?
    what?
    why?
    when?
    you're probably familar with these questions
    who? where? what? we know that
    why? (if he did it) One explanation is that the program was team-wide, and a mixup was made, and Vino got somebody else's blood, which means somebody on Astana has Vino's blood.
    The ASO(The company that runs Le Tour) and the UCI offers Astana a deal. the team leaves en masse or we test all your riders.
    I personally don't look for pro to be motivaed, as Smiling Cat mentioned ( and some of my RealLife buddies have confirmed) , doping is everywhere. Besides, I have a buddy on bikejournal that finished RAAM with 80 some-odd stiches

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    Thanks Fredwina! That clarifies it for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwina View Post
    who?
    The ASO(The company that runs Le Tour) and the UCI offers Astana a deal. the team leaves en masse or we test all your riders.
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    Wait! - the contract that the teams signed before the tour started - did that have a clause about pulling the team if a single rider tested positive? I will do some research. It would not suprise me.
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