first road bike

[emily_in_nc]

Some stores are totally against a 650c wheels...Some tell me I'm better off. May be I'll start a seperate thread about that.

Do a forum search first - this has come up many times. I have a 650c bike and love it. It's most important to ride what fits, and not what some shop says is cool or not. At your height (I'm 5'2.5") I think 650s are going to be a must for you. Even with them, you may have a little toe overlap as I do, but likely less than with 700s, and depending on your torso and arm length, you might not have any toe overlap of the front tire.

There is nothing wrong with 650c wheels except for the fact that you can't buy them in tons of pretty colors like 700c, and carrying your own tube is a MUST as very few folks on a group ride will have that size, if you get a flat. They are fast to accelerate and lighter in weight than 700c's as well. I don't want to start a big debate here, but do a forum search -- you'll see that there are a lot of us here that love our 650c bikes!

And welcome to TE!

Emily

[piaadoll]

Do a forum search first - this has come up many times. I have a 650c bike and love it. It's most important to ride what fits, and not what some shop says is cool or not. At your height (I'm 5'2.5") I think 650s are going to be a must for you. Even with them, you may have a little toe overlap as I do, but likely less than with 700s, and depending on your torso and arm length, you might not have any toe overlap of the front tire.

There is nothing wrong with 650c wheels except for the fact that you can't buy them in tons of pretty colors like 700c, and carrying your own tube is a MUST as very few folks on a group ride will have that size, if you get a flat. They are fast to accelerate and lighter in weight than 700c's as well. I don't want to start a big debate here, but do a forum search -- you'll see that there are a lot of us here that love our 650c bikes!

And welcome to TE!

Emily

Thanks! I did do a search before i posted..but nothing came up when I put 650c wheels in the search. I must be doing something wrong. Even tried 650 by itself. Anyways, Thanks for the input! I foresee myself riding a bike with 650c wheels in the future. Thanks for the warm welcome!


Ok, sorry to thread jack, carry on ladies...

[rapid cycler]

Wow, I'm surprised some of you have had such negative experiences with REI. I don't consider them a big chain store in the pejorative sense at all, given that they're a co-op, and they're super community-minded, always arranging clean-up expeditions in our area canyons and beaches and offering free beginners' classes for various outdoor sporting skills.

I agree that you should track down a salesperson who's interested in fit and seems engaged with your needs as a customer, and I can't imagine that they would forbid you from taking a test ride beyond the parking lot.

Novaras, btw, are made in the same factory that makes Giants, so no worries about them being shoddy bikes.

The thing I love most about REI is that you can take back anything anytime for any reason and get a replacement or refund. You don't even need a receipt if you're a member, because they keep computer records of your purchases. When my Minoura trainer bonked earlier this year—after a year and a half of use—I brought it in to see if it could be fixed. Instead they issued its full $200 purchase price toward a spanky new CycleOps trainer. I've patronized three different REI stores in my area, and each one has stood firmly behind their satisfaction guarantees when I've needed to exchange or return something. So if you buy a bike and decide it's not right, even 6 months later, you're not stranded with it.

I'm not a stockholder in REI, just a satisfied member.

[sundial]

I don't live near a REI store, so I've had to research bikes online.

My first bike was a Terry Symmetry and although the stand-over heighth was right, the top tube was a little short for my long torso. Although I would raise the seat and try other adjustments, I never could get it to fit right.

My second bike is a Specialized Sequoia. What helped me was talking with the guys at the bike shop to really work with me on fine tuning the saddle heighth, stem, and pedals. It really does make a difference to work with someone who is knowledgeable about bike fit and who can communicate with you what your needs are. If you can find a bike outfitter that you feel comfortable with, that should help you in your bike search. There are many good bikes out there that won't cost you $$$$. And by working with a reputable dealer they should stand behind their product should anything need repair or adjustment.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

I second everything Emily said about 650 tires. Especially for a 5'2" women- it might make a better fitting bike for you and it won't be any slower than 700 tires. Be sure to look at Terry bikes for women.

[abvnx]

wow, thanks everyone for all your help. i have had the overlap issues with some of the bikes(trek 1000 and some others). i havnt really had it with the dolce. i found the c'dale synapse in a 47cm at REI and it fit me perfectly. the dolce fit me well and i can actually afford that one. also alot of the REI staff seem hell bent on selling novara. no matter what you ask novara is the best, even if it didnt feel quite right for me.

at the LBS that carried trek, the guy said that the wsd trek 1000 that came in my size would only have the 650's. he said i wouldnt get as much speed.

[Crankin]

I am 5' 1" and I have had bikes with both 650 and 700 wheels. There is not a major difference in speed! The only reason I noticed a slight increase in my speed when I went from the 650s to 700s was a decrease in the weight of the bike and an increase in my ability! I had no toe overlap with either of them. If the bike is fit correctly, it won't happen. These 2 bikes were very different sizes and they both fit me. Differences in other parts of the geometry account for this.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

at the LBS that carried trek, the guy said that the wsd trek 1000 that came in my size would only have the 650's. he said i wouldnt get as much speed.

He doesn't know nothin'.
Yes, a 6 foot tall man on a bike with 700 wheels will "probably" go faster than a 5 foot tall woman on a bike with 650 wheels. But she wouldn't be able to catch up to him if she got 700 wheels anyhow.
The wheels should be proportionate to the bike, and the bike should be proportionate to the rider.

I can't even BEGIN to remember all the dumb things I've heard LBS guys say...especially when it comes to what a woman rider needs.

[batsheva]

i am not having overlap issues with cannondale synapse fem 4 with 700cc wheels on 47cm frame (small)-- i guess i could force it to cause a problem, but only by turning the handlebars right backwards and not in a turn--

the c'dale 47cm synapse fem frames is a perfect fit-- up to 30 miles since got bike 30 weeks ago and not a bit of soreness, jarring, pain, NOTHING - and if you knew how until i am, you would know how much this is cos of the synapse and not cos of me-- it was only $50 more at my LBS than the specialized dolce elite...

i couldnt afford the bike i bought either - my budget was for $700 and ending up spending $1049 (oops!) but sooooo made the right decision - i wanted a bike i would enjoy to ride, not something i wasnt happy with that i would not have looked fwd to getting out on... my advice, humbly suggested, is see if you can do the c'dale somehow-- nice 1 step up from basic but not into the big money... especially as it fit you like a dream - so many of the posts on here seem to be poor bike fot related, so if you have found THE ONE that fits, it might be worth stretching a little if you can...

look fwd to hearing more, whichever way you decide...
batsheva

[batsheva]

3 weeks NOT 30 weeks!

[wonderwoman]

[the c'dale 47cm synapse fem frames is a perfect fit-- up to 30 miles since got bike 3 weeks ago and not a bit of soreness, jarring, pain, NOTHING -
ibatsheva[/QUOTE]

I second the 47 cm c'dale synapse 4 for fit and comfort. I didn't end up buying one, but it was a close second. I bought a Felt FW3 (over my budget) but one reason was that the geometry was almost identical to the Synapse. I was amazed at how different various brands feel. I was dreaming about a Lemond, but it definitely did not fit me. Also tested a Novara Carema (41cm) and hated it. It just didn't feel right. I think they make decent bikes, but as others have said, in-store service can vary. It helps not to go on a weekend! The shop where I rode the Synapse spent time fitting me and helped steer me in the right direction.