Computer RAM question

[7rider]

Okay.
I'm throwing this out here because I figure someone may know.....this is a web forum, so there have to be a few computer-savvy folks out there!

My home p.c. is an old (2000) Compaq Presario 5000, which uses Windows XP OS. It currently has 512 MB of RAM (PC133) and a 700 mHz processor. It runs pretty slow sometimes, especially starting up and loading websites and downloading stuff.

We had one guy tell us we needed to get an upgrade of the graphics card. Another guy told us no way. A graphics card won't help at all and we should add more RAM. He gave us a site (www.crucial.com) which would tell us what our "maximum" memory would be. According to that site, we can put a max of 768 MB RAM in it.

My question is...Why is there a maximum?? We could put 3 256 MB RAM cards in, but why not stick a few 512's in? How come there is a maximum and what happens if you exceed it??

Thanks to all !

[meridian]

The maximum amount of RAM a computer can use is determined by the motherboard in the pc:

1. Number of slots the board has
2. How much RAM each slot is capable of utilizing
3. The maximum amount your motherboard can utilize

If you know the exact model of your computer or your motherboard you can find this information online, or you can consult the owner's manual.

Increasing your RAM to the max amount the system can use is the easiest and least expensive way to increase the performance of your computer.

Considering the processor speed is only 700mhz, maxing the RAM will only help to an extent. More recent pc’s have double or triple the processing speed, so just keep in mind, that the cpu and motherboard will ultimately be your limiting factors if the RAM increase doesn't help enough. Both of these are more expensive upgrades, and are both often more difficult the deal with concerning compatibility. Usually it is more budget conscious to replace the pc at that point, especially if the technology is more than a few years old.

Another thing that may greatly increase performance is giving the operating system a good tune up (defrag, clean out the temp files, etc), or completely reinstall the OS. Windows has a horrible tendency to start running more and more sluggish as time goes on (it's coined 'WinRot'), and this won’t cost a penny if you still have the installation disk and key, and have a knowledgeable friend or co-worker.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

My home p.c. is an old (2000) Compaq Presario 5000, which uses Windows XP OS. It currently has 512 MB of RAM (PC133) and a 700 mHz processor. It runs pretty slow sometimes, especially starting up and loading websites and downloading stuff.

To be frank, I don't know how you are managing to run windows XP on that computer at all.
Upgrading that computer with a new motherboard and a new processer might cost you as much as just buying a new entry level computer, plus there is no guarantee it'll work well even when you do- there are likely to be other issues to deal with as well, such as graphic cards, etc. It still won't run the newer programs as well as a cheap new computer.
It might be "time".

[SR500]

I asked my DH, since he still uses his 500 mhz PIII. Most can take up of 1 GB, of memory. Cleaning out excess programs will help a lot, if you are able to even reformat your HD and start fresh, that can really help. That said, it should be find for email and surfing, you may have a few program/site problems, but overall not bad. A better investment would be a broadband connection then a faster computer. That said, he just upgraded to a 24" iMac and really loves it, but the old machine is still in use, fully networked, and working great.

P.S. XP should run great, better then ME or 98...

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

XP runs much better than 98, I can vouch for that! It hardly EVER crashes, unlike 98.

[7rider]

I asked my DH, since he still uses his 500 mhz PIII. Most can take up of 1 GB, of memory. Cleaning out excess programs will help a lot, if you are able to even reformat your HD and start fresh, that can really help. That said, it should be find for email and surfing, you may have a few program/site problems, but overall not bad. A better investment would be a broadband connection then a faster computer. That said, he just upgraded to a 24" iMac and really loves it, but the old machine is still in use, fully networked, and working great.

P.S. XP should run great, better then ME or 98...

Thanks all.
Well, I spent last night getting rid of unused programs and transferring files to the G: drive (a second hard drive we bought last year sometime - the C: drive's measly 16 GB went from 7% available - - to 36%. I discovered that 7% isn't even enough space to run defrag and music files are HUGE!
The computer is used for 'net surfing, email, storing/editing digi-pix, and occasional word processing.
XP seems to run fine on this p.c. - great, I just jinxed the thing!
Re-installing the OS wouldn't delete or clear out files, would it? I recall that it didn't when I upgraded to XP from Me (so yeah...the disc should be around here...somewhere). Do you just re-install it over the existing one?
I'm loathe to replace the p.c., although I do realize that it is inevitable. I hope that a $40 RAM stick will buy me another year of service from this old dog. We just tend to spend our money on things like Seven's and ... oh... that new kitchen.

[7rider]

(sorry for the double post!)

[SR500]

Hi,

This is the DH. Don't reformat and reinstall your operating system unless you have everything backed up from your hard-drive, as you would loose it. If that's not an option, you can install a new second hard drive and have that be your boot primary drive and the original drive would be storage. A clean disk just seems to run and operate much smoother and faster. That said, it still might not be worth doing. If you can run defrag and disk cleanup that will help. Deleting stuff you don't use will help, and more memory should help. Good luck.

P.S. if you end up looking at a new computer, you might check out a MAC, there are a few hiccups coming from a PC, but I'm sold...

[bikerz]

Regina, I presume you run virus scans and spyware software? Those little nasties can cause a PC to slow down quite a bit.

Also, if you have moved important files off to an external drive, be sure to back them up onto CD, DVD or a second external drive - all drives can fail, and extra disks with tons of storage are very cheap these days.

I've spent way too much time trying to keep elderly PCs running over the years, and have finally realized it's a case of severe diminishing returns! These days, when you can buy a brand new PC box for well under $500 (I bought one a few months ago for $187!) your time is worth more.

My one caution - if you get a PC, DON'T GET VISTA! In my opinion, it is not ready for prime time yet!

[coyote]

If you really just want to get another year out of the computer....purchase the memory, particularly if it is only 40$. Do not uninstall Norton. Norton does nasty little things to your computer that can render it almost useless if you try to uninstall it. To you, your computer will seem light years faster then it was just by adding the memory. Keep your C: drive as clear as possible, run disk cleanup from time to time to get rid of the temp files and defrag the drive even if the defrag program tells you its fine.

If you do not see a huge difference with just the memory, return it and get a new computer.

- Mary

[7rider]

Do not uninstall Norton. Norton does nasty little things to your computer that can render it almost useless if you try to uninstall it.
- Mary

Really????
Oh, that is frightening.....

[coyote]

I've got a couple of Norton horror stories. Not that it is a bad product....they just do not want you uninstalling it. The last time I uninstalled I could not get anything to install on the computer. It turns out that there is a little registry hack I had to run to reset the install command. If I just said blah, blah, blah to you then, trust me you do not try to uninstall Norton.

Sorry the computer geek in me is showing face big time. Ahh well back to work (computers, of course)