Well, for me the beetle was a no go, packed it up and returned it the day it arrived. So, what is good about it is that it indeed has a wide rear like the Brooks Finesse. But, what didn't work for me is that it is wide throughout, and that the transition between rear and nose is too far forward, so I still couldn't sit back enough or my thigns would hit the transition area. Also, the rails are short, so I still couldn't get it far back enough. Furthermore, the fabric cover is just plain yucky. I guess its what its advertised as, a low end recreational saddle, and what I was looking for is a high performance saddle for those of us with wider hip bones. It also made me realize that my broken in leather Brooks Finesse suits me better than a non-leather saddle, since I have been able to break it in with my twisted sit bones from my accident, so for anyone with non-perfectly symetrical anatomy, a Brooks really does have advantages. The only reason I was considering a change is that the rails on my Brooks Finesse are also on the short side. Its fine on my bike with a shallow seat tube angle, but I was hoping to get a tad further back on my bike with the steeper seat tube angle. In the future, I will make sure all bikes I buy have a seat tube angle that is compatable with my Finesse! I know the B67 is longer (per Lisa's post) but I didn't want the extra weight. And I have invested a year breaking in my 2 brooks finesse saddles............ I know another super laid back seat post is an option, but at this point I don't want to spend more money on a bike that doesn't fit me, so I'll put up with it until I can afford another bike.



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